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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>As a recent appointee to the LEDC, I am intrigued by
Phil's comments and am particularly interested in different ideas that may
develop the arts community to a greater degree. <FONT face=Arial>Wayne
suggests that there are some kinds of growth that are more suitable to this
area, and I think that growth of the art community is one of them.
Cultural tourism is something that we ought to be working to
increase.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Art as an engine of economic development is an area of
development that would seem to fit well on the Palouse. It is also an area
that I see as a good match with our talented, art-friendly population
and my desire to encourage growth that positively affects our quality of
life while making this community a draw for both tourists and new, community
friendly, "good fit" businesses. Having a strong art community is one way
to make the community more desirable. That also would give us an advantage
in recruiting environmentally friendly, "good fit" businesses that value
our quality of life and pay theri employees well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Making ourselves into a more supportive arts community on
the production side as well as the consumption side is something that seems
worth pursuing, too. While I do not believe that encouraging heavy
manufacturing "smokestack" industries or heavy water users is appropriate or
desirable, I offer the bronze foundries of Joseph, Oregon as a small scale, high
quality, production side of the art industry that is well worth
encouraging.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bruce Livingston</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cstorhok@co.fairbanks.ak.us
href="mailto:cstorhok@co.fairbanks.ak.us">Chris Storhok</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">'Art Deco'</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 18, 2005 11:43
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Acceptable
business</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=688022619-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Wayne,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=688022619-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> Your hatred for Phil really clouds your judgment. At no
time did Phil suggest that these are the only options for economic development
in Latah County, he gave a list of economic development options based on his
knowledge of geology, the minerals industry, and his overall philosophy of
development. He has some great ideas that if implemented could help the
economy, strengthen Moscow's claim as the heart of the arts, and can do so
without much need to import materials into the county.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=688022619-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> I don't know about you, but I expect those that are well
versed in their field to put forward ideas from their field. I suppose
that is why universities offer specialized degree programs????
I would hope that instead of attacking Phil every time he takes the
time to write down his ideas that you take the time to mull over what he
writes. Wayne, why don't you throw some economic development ideas
into the hopper and make a positive contribution to community development
instead of attacking Phil and others?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=688022619-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=688022619-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Chris </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Art Deco<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 18, 2005 9:55
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Acceptable
business<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Phil:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Your total ignorance again about what I would do in any
particular economic development proposal scenario is <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000 size=5>absolutely stunning</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>However, your post <STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff
size=5>spectacularly</FONT></STRONG> demonstrates a point of an earlier
post: You really belong on the LEDC board. Why? Because of
your "hands out" attitude.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Almost all of the economic development projects you
discuss would provide direct economic benefit to a practicing geological
consultant. Guess what? You are a practicing geological
consultant. Could it be that your concern for <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff>your own economic benefits</FONT></STRONG> are more important
to you than the overall benefits to Latah County of economic development no
matter how cleverly and saintly you describe these projects and no matter
what their overall impacts?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I do not mean to imply that every member of the LEDC board
is a selfish, egotistical slug. There are some very fine, selfless,
community-minded members. However, there are a number of members with
attitudes similar to the ones you have expressed in your posts decrying and
nay-saying the suggestions I and others previously made.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I would expect no change in the future in <FONT
color=#0000ff><STRONG>your</STRONG></FONT> attitude or
perspective.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>However, I would hope that each LEDC board
members would have a <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>brutally frank
discussion</FONT></STRONG> <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff>within</FONT></STRONG> themselves about their attitudes and
fitness to serve. This should be followed by a <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000>brutally frank discussion</FONT></STRONG> <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff>between</FONT></STRONG> the board members. One would
hope the result of these discussions would be either an abrupt change of
behavior of or resignations from the board from those members who are
kedges.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Latah County has decided to invest $30,000 of our tax
money this year in economic development. Without some changes in the
LEDC, we will be throwing some or all of that money down a badger hole, in
my opinion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: "Phil Nisbet" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:pcnisbet1@hotmail.com"><FONT
size=4>pcnisbet1@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:19 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: [Vision2020] Acceptable
business</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> One of the greatest
dichotomies in our little burgh is the variation between <BR>> the
desires of the white collar University element and the blue collar rural
<BR>> element and those who join either camp.<BR>> <BR>> Our white
collar worker wants non-impactive business, something thats nice <BR>>
and officy that pays good money for the degrees that each hang on their
<BR>> walls.<BR>> <BR>> Blue collar workers are looking for
industry, where their skills at hard <BR>> work receive a premium and
which are often seen as very impactive by the <BR>> white collar
clique.<BR>> <BR>> In the white collar cliques universe, the blue
collar is doomed to live <BR>> life taking jobs in retail or similar
service occupations. The wages and <BR>> the future for these
workers becomes a modern serfdom, what Dr. Aaron Harp <BR>> called social
stratification by elevation. The high white collar earners <BR>>
move steadily up hill to buy view lots on the top of Palouse Hills and the
<BR>> blue collar earners have rented trailers in selected valleys
below.<BR>> <BR>> Here in Latah County, we have Moscow and then we
have the rest of the <BR>> county. Moscow has a built in employment
bonus because it draws state tax <BR>> funds into the economy every year
to fuel the University. The Moscow <BR>> economy has ups and downs
according to the money made available from the <BR>> Legislature, but
provides good steady jobs for the 3000 people who work <BR>>
there.<BR>> <BR>> The rural portion of our area does not have that
advantage. The rest of the <BR>> county is plagued by high
unemployment and gross underemployment with little <BR>> sense that there
is a future for them in the place of their birth.<BR>> <BR>>
University families earning 50-60 thousand a year want things like small
<BR>> shops and personal services and a small but classy clubby
atmosphere. The <BR>> blue collar family dragging down $20,000 a
year is more interested in <BR>> getting what ever they can cheaply at
Wally World.<BR>> <BR>> Creating a few more jobs in white collar
sector outside the university <BR>> setting does not solve this
problem. The lone wolf business model simply <BR>> creates a few
more jobs for people headed for the top of a hill and creates <BR>> no
living wages for the blue collar.<BR>> <BR>> Mark Seman has an
interesting perspective on this, suggesting home <BR>> occupation, in
essence cottage industry as a means of providing higher wage <BR>>
employment for white and blue collar alike. The skill set there is
<BR>> craftsmanship, value added through personal attention and
artistry. Its <BR>> not a bad small scale model, but can also be
upgraded to allow similar <BR>> businesses on a slightly larger
scale.<BR>> <BR>> Then there are also jobs and industries that can
combine the skills of the <BR>> knowledge center with the skills of our
blue collar workers.<BR>> <BR>> Latah County has trees and no wood
carvers. We have stone and no stone <BR>> cutters. We have
clay and no brick makers. We are adding very little to <BR>> the
value of the things we produce for export.<BR>> <BR>> Training for
development in craftsmanship for blue collar workers would <BR>> increase
the living wage for that sector of our economy. Melding University
<BR>> knowledge of our materials to add value to exported products would
also add <BR>> living wage jobs.<BR>> <BR>> Things like Medical
Ceramics using locally sourced materials to make dental <BR>> porcelain,
joint replacements, synthetic bone and other such devices would <BR>>
seem a good fit. Making high value porcelain in china wares or in art
<BR>> related ceramics would also be a good fit.<BR>> <BR>>
Nanomaterials and nanocomposite production from local feedstocks is also an
<BR>> area worthy of research for local development.<BR>> <BR>>
Research and development of higher value crops and value added through
<BR>> skilled organic farming is also a living wage alternative.<BR>>
<BR>> And of course lets not forget slate and marble tile production,
thus <BR>> allowing us to convince Angelina that Carl has the appropriate
shower to <BR>> justify hanging out with him.<BR>> <BR>> The vision
that I see is one in which we have local craftsman turning out <BR>>
things of beauty side by side with people making high tech high value items.
<BR>> It is a vision that sees the wage gap shrink and uses the
skills of all <BR>> members of our community. Adding jobs solely
for the white collar will not <BR>> solve our problems and simply leads
to eventual class conflict.<BR>> <BR>> So Wayne tells us that he is
not anti-business, but if we snagged somebody <BR>> like CoorsTek to turn
out medical ceramics here on the Palouse, would we not <BR>> hear horror
stories about them? If we got Boeing to build a composite <BR>>
materials plant here are we going to hear shouts of no way? If Quarry
Tile <BR>> built a facility to make ceramic wall tiles with a 100,000
square foot <BR>> facility? How about if a plant to make marble
counter tops came in?<BR>> <BR>> Because I think that most of us know
that the minute any new business looked <BR>> at the area, Wayne would be
out there 'digging up dirt' and turning siting <BR>> them here into the
next big battle. And most businesses know that any call <BR>> to
move here will be accompanied not by a welcome mat, but by a battle <BR>>
royal.<BR>> <BR>> Phil Nisbet<BR>> <BR>>
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