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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>many thanks for providing the link to the Hawkins
Company plan for the Moscow-Pullman Highway extended strip mall.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is smart growth and there is dumb growth --
and this is a blatant example of the dumbest kind of growth....BL</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=t_reichstein@hotmail.com href="mailto:t_reichstein@hotmail.com">Tim
Reichstein</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:07
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] LOWES </DIV>
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<P>I would like the discussion to start now about Moscow's reaction to the
proposed <A
href="http://www.hawkinscompanies.com/fliers/WA_Pullman_Hwy270_AirportRd_F.pdf">http://www.hawkinscompanies.com/fliers/WA_Pullman_Hwy270_AirportRd_F.pdf</A> LOWE's
strip mall development that is being planned on our border. Rather than
waste our breath on whether or not someone should take office now, or in 6
weeks, lets become prepared for what may happen to our town in the next 2-3-10
years. </P>
<P>1. If this development continues, how do they get their sewage
access. Does Moscow supply this, and what in return does Moscow
recieve. </P>
<P>2. What does this development do to our downtown business area?</P>
<P>3. Will this pull tax dollars from moscow and latah county?
What effect does this have on us?<BR><BR>4. Can Moscow-Pullman sustain
as much retail space as has been proposed: inc. 2 Wal-Marts, Lowes,
possibly a Best Buy, costco, ? Do we need to seriously look for another
employer (100-200+) in this town to sustain this retail space?
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<P>These are just a few questions that we should begin to ask ourselves, and
as citizens, let our input on the matter be known. We don't need another
ballfields on our hand, especially when it comes to something that can pull
alot of tax revenues from Moscow, Latah county and Idaho, that a large
development like this could. Why are we so reactive to issues, let's be
proactive, and use this forum (it is called vision2020) to our benefit.
I may only be 23, and I def. don't have all of the correct answers, and havent
asked all of the pertinent questions that need asked, but I have a "vision" of
what this town may be, and with this forum, maybe we can accomplish
something. </P>
<P>When Highway 95 goes west around town, this development Will be the center
of all economic activity for the area. Palouse mall, downtown, all
become less pertinent. Thank you for your time.</P>
<P>Tim Reichstein</P>
<P>Senior UofI, Business Finance</P>
<P>Co-Owner Moxie Java</P>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>vision2020-request@moscow.com</I><BR>Reply-To: <I>vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>To: <I>vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>Vision2020
Digest, Vol 18, Issue 133</I><BR>Date: <I>Tue, 15 Nov 2005
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"Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<BR>><BR>><BR>>Today's
Topics:<BR>><BR>> 1. RE: City council
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Ivie)<BR>> 2. county performance analysis (Stephen
Cooke)<BR>> 3. November 1-7 Hot Sheet (Jennifer
McFarland)<BR>> 4. Zones of one sort or another
(Joan Opyr)<BR>> 5. RE: City council
elections-immediate appt. of Mr.
Ament<BR>> (Donovan
Arnold)<BR>><BR>><BR>>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>>Message:
1<BR>>Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:11:10 -0800 (PST)<BR>>From: Tom Ivie
<the_ivies3@yahoo.com><BR>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] City council
elections-immediate appt. of<BR>> Mr. Ament<BR>>To:
pcook818@adelphia.net, vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>Message-ID:
<20051115201110.69165.qmail@web30813.mail.mud.yahoo.com><BR>>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>><BR>>It is my understanding that
this is an "informal guideline" which is a couple steps removed from an
official Attorney General Opinion. It is interesting reading, but
provides no absolute determination. There doesn't appear to be an
absolute determination because the case law used in this argument is for a
County Judge position and is quite different, as is the separation of
powers, from a legislative appointment. The two positions are
also bound by completely different Idaho Statutes (T. 50 for City and T. 59
for County). A quick look in the Pacific Digest for this exact circumstance
only refers one to the Decennial Digest which refers to a 1993 Rhode Island
case, not quite Idaho (Anderson v. Sundlun, 625 A.2d 213). It basically says
that an appointed official serves until the qualification of a
successor. Qualification in this case would be the certification
of the election which happened at 4:00pm last Wednesday. Does that apply
here? I don't know. Will we ever
know?!<BR>> I would<BR>> think that
the Mayor and his legal staff are looking into it with diligence to
determine what to do and will let all of us know when they figure it
out. We should be patient and give them some credit as some of
these things aren't easy to answer. I did, however, like the
argument that someone posted (maybe Wayne?) which stated that T. 50-702
says..."except as otherwise specifically provided"...which would be T.
50-704 which states..."such vacancy shall be filled for the balance of the
original term."<BR>><BR>>p.s. Phil, that was some good research on
your part. I only found where you can search for Opinions
online. I had to look at the actual hard copy of the Annual
Report to find what you posted. Can you tell me where you found
it? -Tom<BR>><BR>>Philip Cook <pcook818@adelphia.net>
wrote:<BR>>The following is from the Idaho Attorney General's Annual
Report, 1987.<BR>><BR>>Philip Cook<BR>><BR>>*******Quoted
material follows*******<BR>><BR>>September 25,
1987<BR>><BR>>James B. Weatherby<BR>>Executive
Director<BR>>Association of Idaho Cities<BR>>3314 Grace
Street<BR>>Boise, ID 83703<BR>><BR>>THIS CORRESPONDENCE IS A LEGAL
GUIDELINE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SUBMITTED FOR YOUR
GUIDANCE<BR>><BR>>Re: City Council Vacancies<BR>><BR>>Dear
Jim:<BR>><BR>>In your letter of August 26, 1987, you ask several
questions concerning successors in office to council members appointed to
fill a vacancy. Specifically, you ask at what point is a successor elected
and qualified to assume a council office when the person appointed to fill a
vacancy either is defeated in the election or declines to seek election. You
further ask that the answer be provided as it relates to a term which still
has two years to run and to a term which expires and election is for a
regular term.<BR>><BR>>Idaho Code § 50-704 provides the manner in
which a vacancy to the city council is filled:<BR>><BR>>A vacancy on
the council shall be filled by appointment made by the mayor with the
consent of the council, which appointee shall serve only until the next
general city election, at which such vacancy shall be filled for the balance
of the original term.<BR>><BR>>Idaho Code § 50-702 provides for the
point at which councilmen elected take office:<BR>>“Councilmen elected
at each general city election shall be installed at the first meeting in
January following election.”<BR>><BR>>The general rule governing
taking office upon election to fill an unexpired term is that the person who
wins the election takes the office immediately upon election and
qualification; generally within a reasonable time after the election. 67
C.J.S. Officers, § 79. However, where a statute provides otherwise, the
person elected to fill an unexpired term takes office at the time prescribed
in the statute. Id. White v. Young, 88 Idaho 188, 397 P.2d 756
(1964).<BR>><BR>>Reading §§ 50-702 and 50-704 together, it is clear
that in Idaho the statutes provide a single, direct answer to the various
scenarios posed in your question. Thus, a person elected to fill an
unexpired term as provided by § 50-704 would assume office on the first
meeting of the council in January following the election. The same would
hold true for the person elected for a full term which commences in January
following the election. That person also would not take office until the
first meeting in January following the election.<BR>><BR>>Each of
these conclusions is consistent with the holding in White v. Young, supra,
where the Idaho Supreme Court held that a county officer will take office at
the time designated by statute.<BR>><BR>>If our office can be of
further assistance, please
call.<BR>><BR>>Sincerely,<BR>><BR>>DANIEL G.
CHADWICK<BR>>Chief, Intergovernmental Affairs
Division<BR>><BR>>******End quoted material
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<scooke@uidaho.edu><BR>>Subject: [Vision2020] county performance
analysis<BR>>To: Vision2020 Listserver List
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>Message-ID:
<0IQ0002QON98C6@mailA.its.uidaho.edu><BR>>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii<BR>><BR>>FYI<BR>>Steve
Cooke<BR>>hi--<BR>><BR>>amy glasmeier of penn state's geography
department has put together a<BR>>website that applies analytical tools
to a number of economic development<BR>>indicators for all counties in
the US. you just select the state and county<BR>>and hit submit. it
generates a series of charts, graphs, tables, etc. it<BR>>also tells you
how to interpret the results. specifically, it contains:<BR>>A snapshot
of the important local economic indicators<BR>>Examination of historical
performance and the trends for these indicators in<BR>>order to determine
current direction.<BR>>Location quotients to identify local strengths and
opportunities.<BR>>Shift-share analysis to help identify local growth
engines.<BR>>A pointer to living-wage estimations for the region
according to various<BR>>family sizes.<BR>>The type of industries that
pay living wages in your area.<BR>>it is
here:<BR>><BR>>http://www.economictoolbox.geog.psu.edu/<BR>><BR>>i
think this is really cool. if you find it useful, let amy
(akg1@psu.edu)<BR>>know (or me, and i will pass that on to
her).<BR>><BR>><BR>>Martin Shields<BR>><BR>>Director, Center
for Economic and Community Development<BR>>Associate Professor of
Agricultural and Regional Economics<BR>>Dept of Agricultural Economics
and Rural Sociology<BR>>The Pennsylvania State
University<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>------------------------------<BR>><BR>>Message:
3<BR>>Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:06:37 -0800<BR>>From: "Jennifer
McFarland" <jmcfarland@latah.id.us><BR>>Subject: [Vision2020]
November 1-7 Hot Sheet<BR>>To: <vision2020@moscow.com>,
"'Anderson'" <janderson@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Aston'"
<jaston@latah.id.us>, "'Baker'" <gbaker@latah.id.us>,<BR>>
"'Borger'" <lborger@latah.id.us>, "'Bunney'"
<rbunney@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Carpenter'"
<dcarpenter@latah.id.us>, "'Chief'"<BR>>
<bstrampher@latah.id.us>, "'Coleman'"
<vcoleman@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Cork'" <tcork@latah.id.us>,
"'Cpl. Besst'" <tbesst@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Cpl. Johnson'"
<djohnson@latah.id.us>, "'Cpl. King'"<BR>>
<dking@latah.id.us>, "'Cpl. Manell'" <rmanell@latah.id.us>,
"'Cpl.<BR>> Mikolajczyk'" <smikolajczyk@latah.id.us>, "'Cpl.
Peterson'"<BR>> <bpeterson@latah.id.us>, "'Det.
Lehmbecker'"<BR>> <mlehmbecker@latah.id.us>, "'Fork'"
<afork@latah.id.us>, "'Hazel'"<BR>> <jhazel@latah.id.us>,
"'Heckert'" <rheckert@latah.id.us>, "'Johnson'"<BR>>
<kjohnson@latah.id.us>, "'Larson'" <jlarson@latah.id.us>,
"'Law'"<BR>> <claw@latah.id.us>, "'Lt. Loyd'"
<jloyd@latah.id.us>, "'Luther'"<BR>> <sluther@latah.id.us>,
"'Moran'" <hmoran@latah.id.us>, "'Musgrave'"<BR>>
<mmusgrave@latah.id.us>, "'Neelon'"
<mneelon@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Ockunzzi'"
<jockunzzi@latah.id.us>, "'Ogden'" <eogden@latah.id.us>,<BR>>
"'O'Toole'" <rotoole@latah.id.us>, "'Pannell'"
<gpannell@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Pierson'"
<npierson@latah.id.us>, "'Prosecutor'" <pa@latah.id.us>,<BR>>
"'Ragan'" <tragan@latah.id.us>, "'Russell'"
<mrussell@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Sgt. Anderson'"
<danderson@latah.id.us>, "'Sgt. Aston'"<BR>>
<easton@latah.id.us>, "'Sgt. Gray'" <pgray@latah.id.us>,
"'Sgt.<BR>> Jordan'" <bjordan@latah.id.us>, "'Sgt.
Stinebaugh'"<BR>> <mstinebaugh@latah.id.us>, "'Sgt. Wilson'"
<kwilson@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Sheriff'"
<wrausch@latah.id.us>, "'Sillers'"
<rsillers@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Skiles'"
<rskiles@latah.id.us>, "'Storrs'" <sstorrs@latah.id.us>,<BR>>
"'Strampher'" <jstrampher@latah.id.us>, "'Tanya'"<BR>>
<tfaley@latah.id.us>, "'Vietmeier'"
<rvietmeier@latah.id.us>,<BR>> "'Waters'"
<jwaters@latah.id.us>, "'Weaver'"
<rweaver@latah.id.us><BR>>Message-ID:
<000001c5ea39$3b792e00$7964000a@latah.id.us><BR>>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR>><BR>>All:<BR>><BR>>Visit the
following link to view the newest Hot Sheet (November 1-7,
2005):<BR>><BR>>http://www.latah.id.us/Dept/Sheriff_HotSheets.htm<BR>><BR>>PIO
Jennifer L. McFarland<BR>>Latah County Sheriff's Office<BR>>Public
Information Officer<BR>>PO Box 8068<BR>>Moscow, Idaho
83843<BR>>(208) 882-2216<BR>>Fax (208) 883-2281<BR>><BR>>Truth
is the summit of being; justice is the application of it to
affairs.<BR>>***Ralph Waldo
Emerson<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>------------------------------<BR>><BR>>Message:
4<BR>>Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:39:18 -0800<BR>>From: Joan Opyr
<joanopyr@earthlink.net><BR>>Subject: [Vision2020] Zones of one
sort or another<BR>>To: Vision2020 Moscow
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>Message-ID:
<09F515DC-5631-11DA-9326-000D935F0508@earthlink.net><BR>>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR>><BR>>Dear
Visionaries:<BR>><BR>>Phil Nisbet notes that a number of sex crime
statutes are still on the<BR>>books in Idaho, and he asks: "So all the
folks who are screaming for<BR>>uniform enforcement, are you ready to see
any of [these sex crime<BR>>statutes] enforced here in
Moscow?"<BR>><BR>>Here's what I wonder: what, exactly, is the
connection between zoning<BR>>laws and sex crime laws? Why is
this analogy being made? From the<BR>>very beginning, Doug
Wilson has asserted that this whole NSA business<BR>>was not about zoning
but about promoting "the homosexual
agenda."<BR>>Really? That's news to me, and, technically, I
think I'm part of the<BR>>homosexual agenda. Did I miss a memo
from the Gay Politburo or has<BR>>Doug somehow confused Moscow's Central
Business District zone with what<BR>>might euphemistically be called the
old "end zone?" If so, then I<BR>>shudder to think what he
means by "occupancy permit."<BR>><BR>>Just for the record, both the
front and back doors of Moscow's gay<BR>>community are shut to you, Doug
Wilson. In the words of Little<BR>>Richard, "You keep a'
knockin' but you cain't come in! Whooo!"<BR>><BR>>Joan
Opyr/Auntie
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5<BR>>Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:58:35 -0800 (PST)<BR>>From: Donovan
Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com><BR>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020]
City council elections-immediate appt. of<BR>> Mr. Ament<BR>>To:
pcook818@adelphia.net, vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>Message-ID:
<20051115235836.16121.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com><BR>>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1<BR>><BR>>I guess that settels the
matter, unless there have<BR>>been other rulings since that
correspondence in 1987.<BR>>Ament cannot take office until January of
2006.<BR>><BR>>I think the state needs to amend the statue §
50-704<BR>>so it is consistent with the language in statue
§<BR>>50-702.<BR>><BR>>When a federal or state elected official is
elected to<BR>>fill a vacancy, the candidate takes office before
the<BR>>other candidates elected to a full term. Why that<BR>>cannot
be the case in the city elections, I have no<BR>>idea. There is no logic
behind that reasoning if a<BR>>democratic government is the
intent.<BR>><BR>>Take Care,<BR>><BR>>Donovan J
Arnold<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>--- Philip Cook
<pcook818@adelphia.net> wrote:<BR>><BR>> > The following is
from the Idaho Attorney General's<BR>> > Annual Report, 1987.<BR>>
><BR>> > Philip Cook<BR>> ><BR>> > *******Quoted
material follows*******<BR>> ><BR>> > September 25, 1987<BR>>
><BR>> > James B. Weatherby<BR>> > Executive Director<BR>>
> Association of Idaho Cities<BR>> > 3314 Grace Street<BR>> >
Boise, ID 83703<BR>> ><BR>> > THIS CORRESPONDENCE IS A LEGAL
GUIDELINE OF THE<BR>> > ATTORNEY GENERAL SUBMITTED FOR YOUR
GUIDANCE<BR>> ><BR>> > Re: City Council Vacancies<BR>>
><BR>> > Dear Jim:<BR>> ><BR>> > In your letter of
August 26, 1987, you ask several<BR>> > questions concerning
successors in office to council<BR>> > members appointed to fill a
vacancy. Specifically,<BR>> > you ask at what point is a successor
elected and<BR>> > qualified to assume a council office when the
person<BR>> > appointed to fill a vacancy either is defeated
in<BR>> > the election or declines to seek election. You<BR>> >
further ask that the answer be provided as it<BR>> > relates to a term
which still has two years to run<BR>> > and to a term which expires
and election is for a<BR>> > regular term.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Idaho Code § 50-704 provides the manner in which a<BR>> > vacancy to
the city council is filled:<BR>> ><BR>> > A vacancy on the
council shall be filled by<BR>> > appointment made by the mayor with
the consent of<BR>> > the council, which appointee shall serve only
until<BR>> > the next general city election, at which such<BR>>
> vacancy shall be filled for the balance of the<BR>> > original
term.<BR>> ><BR>> > Idaho Code § 50-702 provides for the point
at which<BR>> > councilmen elected take office:<BR>> >
“Councilmen elected at each general city election<BR>> > shall be
installed at the first meeting in January<BR>> > following
election.”<BR>> ><BR>> > The general rule governing taking
office upon<BR>> > election to fill an unexpired term is that
the<BR>> > person who wins the election takes the office<BR>> >
immediately upon election and qualification;<BR>> > generally within a
reasonable time after the<BR>> > election. 67 C.J.S. Officers, § 79.
However, where<BR>> > a statute provides otherwise, the person elected
to<BR>> > fill an unexpired term takes office at the time<BR>> >
prescribed in the statute. Id. White v. Young, 88<BR>> > Idaho 188,
397 P.2d 756 (1964).<BR>> ><BR>> > Reading §§ 50-702 and
50-704 together, it is clear<BR>> > that in Idaho the statutes provide
a single, direct<BR>> > answer to the various scenarios posed in
your<BR>> > question. Thus, a person elected to fill an<BR>> >
unexpired term as provided by § 50-704 would assume<BR>> > office on
the first meeting of the council in<BR>> > January following the
election. The same would hold<BR>> > true for the person elected for a
full term which<BR>> > commences in January following the election.
That<BR>> > person also would not take office until the first<BR>>
> meeting in January following the election.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Each of these conclusions is consistent with the<BR>> > holding in
White v. Young, supra, where the Idaho<BR>> > Supreme Court held that
a county officer will take<BR>> > office at the time designated by
statute.<BR>> ><BR>> > If our office can be of further
assistance, please<BR>> > call.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Sincerely,<BR>> ><BR>> > DANIEL G. CHADWICK<BR>> > Chief,
Intergovernmental Affairs Division<BR>> ><BR>> > ******End
quoted material ********<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
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