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<DIV><FONT size=4>Michael writes:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Im working on a debate with <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Wilson</st1:City></st1:place> on this matter right now."<o:p></o:p>
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size=3><o:p></o:p></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=Verdana size=6><FONT
color=#ff0000><STRONG>Warning!</STRONG><FONT size=4>
</FONT></FONT></FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=Verdana size=6><FONT
size=4></FONT></FONT></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=Verdana size=6><FONT size=4>Michael, if your
livelihood depends in any way upon being in the good graces of Christ Church
Capon Douglas Wilson, do not win the debate. Those that disagree with
Wilson are soon disgraced and departed. </FONT></FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=Verdana size=6><FONT
size=4></FONT></FONT></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=Verdana size=6><FONT size=4>Case in
point: The imminently qualified, charming, and impressive
<STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5>past</FONT></STRONG> music master at
NSA. After he voted not to elevate dimbulb Christ Church Capon Jr Nathan
Wilson to the status of Full Fellow, he was terminated. There are other
cases: one in Canon Press was a subject of discussion previously on V
2020.</FONT></FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></SPAN><BR><FONT face=Verdana size=4>Art Deco
(Wayne A. Fox)<BR></FONT><A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=metzler@moscow.com href="mailto:metzler@moscow.com">Michael</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 14, 2005 9:57
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision 2020] Ralph, Beer, Cats,
Sex, Berith, & Apostle Paul</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ralph,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Your name is Inigo Montoya, and I am prepared to die.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Here is your paragraph in
full:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">As to why neither appears in the New Testament, I
suspect that the expectation of the imminent Second Coming of Christ was so
fully in the minds many of the early Christians that they had no time to think
of either beer or cats. They didn't even have time to think about
sex<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">(1 Corinthians 7:29-31).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Looking back on it, I can see that those who didnt
have time to think of beer or cats were only many, (although not your later
interpretation as some.) However, look at how ambiguous the second statement
is; it seems to be an independent statement asserted to support the initial
claim. It is most naturally read as the following: many didnt drink
beer; after all, Christians didnt even have time to think about sex according
to Pauls comments about sex in 1 Corinthians. This would imply that you were
referring to, generally speaking, all Christians.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">So I cant say that my initial read of this was some
sort of gross misrepresentation. The average reader would need the
follow up information that <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Corinth</st1:City></st1:place> and the Christians there were
actually a rowdy sexual and drinking bunch of people, according to external
and internal textual evidence. I dont take the responses to this personally,
since I know that my revealed relation to various ministries of <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:PersonName></st1:place> do not permit me
to make a true assertion about the bible :-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">As for the text in question, this is a very beautiful
but difficult text; Paul does not clearly reference a second coming here,
but this present [or impending] distress (7:26). Paul is more
concerned with defending his own love for them, his authority, getting worship
in better order, the primacy of love and unity in the church, and serious
discipline issues than he is about an immanent happening. His
eschatology in this book seems different than you suggest. For example,
Paul says that Jesus must reign until he has put all enemies under his feet,
which would include liberal biblical scholarship; so he couldnt have come
that early on.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">As a side note, if you are a local biblical scholar, I
need help on OT berith and new testament diatheke. This is where some of
my work is currently focused, and other than Leithart it is hard to find any
interest around here since Joan would call me a heretic for rejecting the
teaching of the Westminister Confession of Faith. Im working on a
debate with <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Wilson</st1:City></st1:place> on this matter right
now.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Michael Metzler <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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