<DIV>Not to take either side here, but I would think that there are issues that cross the religious/government lines, such as issues involving morality. That is not to give a blanket definition of what morality is. Morals are going to be different for different people and groups. But all groups should be represented. Whether a clergy member chooses to speak for their congregation or as an individual, they should be allowed to without retribution, at least on moral issues. I might add that I have no affiliation with Christ Church and am not sure that I know anyone that is a member there and at the current moment I have no formal ties with any particular church. <BR><BR><B><I>Bill London <london@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is Christ Church a political organization?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sure, and that has been obvious for years (for example, on 7/1/02, Doug Wilson testified before the Moscow City Council on the nudity ordinance representing his congregation as a voting bloc)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is that a problem for Christ Church?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yup. Due to tax law, etc, churches are not supposed to pursue a political agenda and certainly not supposed to support individual candidates. Dale Courtney (who is not a church official for the deniability reason) skirts the very edge of that law with his support message and "questionaire"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 07, 2005 7:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] kirk email</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">J Wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">But, they are NOT being political and have no political agenda...yeah, right and the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">London</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bridge</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> is still for sale, for a reduced price no less.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Me:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Im not getting the argument. Im inclined to wonder what <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:PersonName></st1:place> would have to do in order to demonstrate that they do not have a political agenda (as relevantly understood). Perhaps this is actually a reasonable question that someone would like to venture a question for. One thing that was clear about Dales email is that it was important to vote this year since it might decide the destiny of NSA. Wed like NSA to be able to stay put and Id personally not like a huge vacant building on <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Main street</st1:address></st1:Street>. If this is what it means to have a political agenda, then fine, you win. <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:PersonName></st1:place> has a political agenda. Weve been caught red handed; youve figured us out. Case closed. Now, could we get back to the more exciting things in life like the Knowledge, the Problem of Evil, and the Nature of Sex?!! : -)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Michael Metzler <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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