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<DIV><FONT size=4>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>I have already commented on V 2020 upon the proposed Third
Street bridge from the standpoint of a systems engineer. I understand that
completely independent of those remarks at least one other engineer
has said the same things in a Moscow public forum.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>For the big picture, here is what I opine:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The main issue </FONT><FONT size=4>for Muscovites (and
those who frequent Moscow) to decide is the importance of neighborhood
continuity, connection, and safety.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>If neighborhood continuity, connection, and safety are
not as important as changing traffic flow so that two or three minutes can be
shaved off someone's commute, then the Third Street bridge and other
neighborhood transecting routes should be built.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>If continuity, connection, and safety are more important
than changing traffic flow so that two or three minutes can be shaved off
someone's commute, then through traffic should be routed <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff size=5>around</FONT></STRONG> neighborhoods <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff size=5>rather than through them</FONT></STRONG>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5><STRONG>This is not a new
concept!</STRONG></FONT> Creating/maintaining neighborhood integrity (=
continuity, connection, and safety) has long been a goal of many quality
communities, who, for example, require the design of new
developments/subdivisions to be like enclaves, not internally affected by the
flow of traffic in general or that from adjacent neighborhoods.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The problem of process in the bridge dispute is the same
as the problem of process in the downtown zoning dispute: There is a
clear, statutorily mandated process for making these decisions which has
not been followed. Part, perhaps the most important part, of that process
is to have clearly stated, achievable goals in the Comprehensive
Plan.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The goals of the Comprehensive Plan should be in place before
decisions about the Third Street bridge or the downtown zoning revisions
should be attempted. To do otherwise may be in contravention of state law
and may make the decisions in these matters ripe for successful appeals in
court.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The creation/maintenance of the goals in the Comprehensive
Plan should involve more community input than just posting a hearing notice in
the legals in the newspaper and then listening to the few people who show up for
the formal public hearings. </FONT><FONT size=4></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>This is my opinion, based not only on years of participating
in these kinds of processes, but as someone who was a planning and zoning
coordinator/director for three years is what should occur:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Elected public leaders like the Mayor and City Council and
relevant city employees like the City Manager and the Director of Community
Development should expend much energy in creating/maintaining viable, lively
mechanisms to encourage broad community input. For example, they should
help to create and then nurture neighborhood groups/associations whose
purpose is discuss the issues which affect their neighborhood and the city
as a whole. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>These leaders/employees should make continual efforts to
keep these groups/associations healthy <FONT color=#0000ff>and</FONT> also
encourage by as much direct contact as practical all people affected to
participate by giving input in planning and zoning processes, and indeed all
important policy aspects of the city administration. A very important part
of this effort is for the city to hire <STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff
size=5>competent, energetic, people oriented</FONT></STRONG> personnel
whose attitude includes this community based input approach and whose
actions demonstrate it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>In my opinion, Moscow has been far from successful for the
most part in implementing this kind of outreach. I hope this can
change.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom Ivie</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 04, 2005 2:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Letters of
Opinions</DIV>
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<DIV><IMG src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/30.gif">Oh
No, not change (read the sarcasm). How misguided! Your brother
doesn't live at the creek. My reference was to the four houses at the
Creek. Last time I noticed, your brother wasn't elderly or a widow
either (more sarcasm). As far as response time is concerned, your fair
guess is wrong as far as the the owners of those four houses are
concerned, none of them have complained yet. Quite the contrary, I know
these neighbors very well and I know that they would rather die in their
houses than have that street go through. In fact, two houses down is the fire
captain and around the corner on Roosevelt are two EMT's who have always
managed to be the first on the scene, and in quite a quick fashion.
Plus, I am not positive of this, but I think your sister-in-law is also an EMT
around the other corner on Cleveland. </DIV>
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<DIV>The 1912 building is a whole other topic, one of which I am not well
versed on. I simply stated my neighbor's concerns and the fact that
Steed didn't like her opinion. Does that mean I fear change? I
don't think so. It might mean that my neighbor fears changes that could
happen at the 1912 building. You would have to ask her though.
-Tom</DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>Julie Crumley <joodge@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<P>Tom Ivie wrote:</P>
<P>"...All the people that live in the houses surrounding the creek are
elderly and on fixed incomes..."</P>
<P>I don't know what "surrounding" entails exactly in this context, but a
certain sibling of mine lives quite near this proposed bridge and I'm sure
he has no plans of moving. I think it'd be a fair guess to say that
the citizens living at the end of 3rd street near the proposed bridge would
appreciate a quicker response from fire and police over their new bridge
that creates an easier flow of transportation! Change happens. Long-term
homeowners see many changes in the neighborhood around them. It's the nature
of things. I grew up in a house in east Moscow bordered on two sides
by farm fields as far as the eye could see, that is now smack dab in the
middle of quite a large dubdivision. Things happen. </P>
<P>As far as senior programs, they have been moved already from the Old Post
Office to the 1912 building, and may be moved again sometime in the near or
distant future. Again, change happens. I would venture to say most people in
this community values these programs, but the exact location of them is not
that big of a part of the equation.</P>
<P>An underlying theme I noticed in Mr. Ivie's post is that he fears change.
He expresses the fear of change of his neighbors and friends. I DO NOT
fear change, as change brings about new and exciting things. If we
never let anything change in our town, we'd have no new track and football
field at the high school, we'd have no Kibbie Dome, we'd be swimming in the
old, cracked pool I swam in as a child....see the pattern? I'm all for
positive, forward change, and I don't think I'm alone.</P>
<P>JC</P>
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<H2 align=center><FONT size=7>*****VOTE*****</FONT></H2>
<H2 align=center><FONT size=7> <FONT color=#ff0000><U>DAN
CARSCALLEN</U></FONT> </FONT></H2>
<H2 align=center><FONT size=6>FOR </FONT></H2>
<H2 align=center><FONT size=6>*CITY COUNCIL*</FONT></H2>
<P align=center><FONT color=#ff0000 size=7><STRONG>NOVEMBER
8th</STRONG></FONT></P>
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<P>COPYRIGHT 2005 JULIE CRUMLEY. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. SO THERE.</P>
<P> </P>
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voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having
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