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<P>You don't know about my hanging around with children because you don't know the first friggin' thing about me. As a parent with a child there, yep, I hang out with kids from West Park. Moscow kids, not that I have anything against Viola kids.</P>
<P>Now, did the principal tell you what proportion of the West Park population was from Viola? You wrote that most of the kids were from Viola. Is that from the principal?<BR><BR>Now, since we've been blessed with more frothy examples of your digital diarrhea on this listserve, I assume you've had time to look at my post and yours. I'm waiting for you to show me where I made any of the statements you've absurdly attributed to me.</P>
<P>Go ahead, show me. You can't, because you're wrong, and you're not adult enough to admit it. You make asinine statements about other people because you start typing without thinking, and then you don't have the spine to either retract them or admit you're wrong. </P>
<P>You never said the Taliban were partially responsible for the September 11 attacks, Donovan; that's your pathetic back-track position, as you wipe the egg off your face. You held them SOLELY responsible for the attacks, you said they committed them. You didn't mention Al Quaida. That's why I bothered to respond, because I'm pretty sure not one Afghani actually participated in the attacks. </P>
<P>And I didn't compare them to Christ Church either. Show me where I said that. I provided you with my post and yours, so you could have another look. You've had time to read them both. Put up or shut up.</P>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></I><BR>To: <I>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com>, kjajmix1@msn.com, heirdoug@netscape.net, deco@moscow.com, vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>RE: [Vision2020] West Park Elementary ,Russell and the alternative school</I><BR>Date: <I>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:38:08 -0700 (PDT)</I><BR>>Sunil,<BR>><BR>>You wrote:<BR>><BR>>"All of the children I know at that school (West Park)<BR>>are from Moscow, from the north end of town or the Ft.<BR>>Russell area, or close to downtown, or from family<BR>>housing on campus. None of them are from Viola."<BR>><BR>>I was not aware that you hung out with elementary<BR>>students at West Park. However, it was my<BR>>understanding from the principle of West Park<BR>>elementary
that all the children from Viola are bused<BR>>in to attend West Park. I trust his experiences and<BR>>knowledge of the school over yours.<BR>><BR>>When I was a Senator, Family Housing was one of my<BR>>living groups for two years. One of their chief<BR>>concerns was the safety issue of small children, K-3,<BR>>walking around campus and crossing streets with<BR>>inexperienced college kids at the wheel. In fact, one<BR>>of their housing association president's fought an<BR>>effort to get the kids bused the short distant from<BR>>Family Housing to West Park.<BR>><BR>>Regardless, West Park is too noisy and small to meet<BR>>the current demands on the school. That property could<BR>>bring in a great deal of money that could be used to<BR>>build a better school.<BR>><BR>>You continue:<BR>>"I don't know if any of them share what
Donovan<BR>>incorrectly ascribes to be my views about the<BR>>Taliban."<BR>><BR>>You are probably correct, I do not think that any<BR>>third graders at West Park would share your view of<BR>>the Taliban not being at least partially responsible<BR>>for aiding in the September 11th attacks on the US.<BR>><BR>>Take Care,<BR>><BR>>Donovan J Arnold<BR>><BR>>--- Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com><BR>>wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>---------------------------------<BR>><BR>>All of the children I know at that school are from<BR>>Moscow, from the north end of town or the Ft. Russell<BR>>area, or close to downtown, or from family housing on<BR>>campus. None of them are from Viola.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I don't know if any of them share what Donovan<BR>>incorrectly ascribes to be my views about
the Taliban.<BR>> Maybe he can clear that up.<BR>><BR>>By the way, Doug, do you live in Pullman? I'm not<BR>>asking because I plan to stalk you, or anything like<BR>>that.<BR>><BR>>Sunil<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>---------------------------------<BR>><BR>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com><BR>>To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com>,<BR>>heirdoug@netscape.net, deco@moscow.com,<BR>>vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>Subject: [Vision2020] West Park Elementary ,Russell<BR>>and the alternative school<BR>>Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:17:42 -0700 (PDT)<BR>> >Keely,<BR>> ><BR>> >Has anyone considered shutting down West Park,<BR>>selling<BR>> >or leasing the building, then using the revenue to<BR>> >build a larger elementary
elsewhere?<BR>> ><BR>> >West Park is sitting on very valuable land. Few of<BR>>the<BR>> >children at that school as I understand, even live in<BR>> >the immediate area, which is mostly young college<BR>> >students. It is my understanding that most of them<BR>>are<BR>> >from Viola and elsewhere.<BR>> ><BR>> >Further, that tiny bit of land prevents expansion and<BR>> >requires the school district to lease nearby land for<BR>> >parking from the city and classroom space at UI for<BR>> >the Kindergartners .<BR>> ><BR>> >I also believe that the land used to house buses<BR>>seems<BR>> >like prime real estate. Is it not possible to sell<BR>> >that valuable land and purchase cheaper land<BR>> >elsewhere. Why should buses be on expensive real<BR>> >estate?<BR>> ><BR>> >These
are just a few thoughts I had and was hoping<BR>>you<BR>> >could explain.<BR>> ><BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> ><BR>> >Donovan J Arnold<BR>> ><BR>> >--- keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Looks like Doug took his belligerence pills this<BR>> > > morning . . .<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Focusing on "the student populations of Russell<BR>>and<BR>> > > West Park . . . " means<BR>> > > that the best thing for them MAY be remodeling the<BR>> > > two school buildings, or<BR>> > > building something new, or expanding one site.<BR>>It's<BR>> > > about schoolchildren,<BR>> > > not just school buildings. That seems pretty clear<BR>> > > to me.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > No, 4 million and 4.6 million don't
add up to $15<BR>> > > milllion. Never said they<BR>> > > did. The 4 and 4.6 million in the spring was for<BR>> > > K-5; the defeat of the<BR>> > > bond means we will continue with K-6, and that<BR>>extra<BR>> > > grade requires more<BR>> > > class space. Russell is crowded. West Park is<BR>> > > crowded. Costs have<BR>> > > increased. The amount toward resolving the WP and<BR>>R<BR>> > > problems will be less<BR>> > > than $15 million, and the difference, if any,<BR>>would<BR>> > > be used to make other<BR>> > > major repairs/improvements to district buildings.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > I do not believe MSD is "bloated" and there's no<BR>>way<BR>> > > in hell (where such an<BR>>
> > idea would have to originate) that we could do<BR>>away<BR>> > > with 50-75 teachers.<BR>> > > But your ignorance of public schools is rivaled by<BR>> > > your hatred of them, and<BR>> > > so I doubt you will agree, understand, or even<BR>> > > listen.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > As for "multiculturalism" and why I would prefer<BR>> > > that you not address me in<BR>> > > German -- words fail me, in any language. While<BR>>I'm<BR>> > > sure you're gloating<BR>> > > and guffawing, I can't imagine that anyone else<BR>>has<BR>> > > the slightest idea of<BR>> > > what you mean.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Please consider this is my last attempt to engage<BR>> > > with you, unless you ask<BR>> > > me questions that spring
from a desire to learn<BR>>and<BR>> > > not a chance to do a<BR>> > > smackdown on me or MSD. I've tried to be gracious<BR>> > > to you, but I am not<BR>> > > interested in causing you to stumble in your faith<BR>> > > by being an easy target.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Let me know when you want to discuss things<BR>> > > maturely, with respect and an<BR>> > > open mind.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > keely<BR>> > ><BR>> > > From: heirdoug@netscape.net<BR>> > > To: kjajmix1@msn.com, deco@moscow.com,<BR>> > > vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Daily News article<BR>> > > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:16:46 -0400<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > From: Keely Mix<BR>> > > "... making the
school populations of Russell<BR>>and<BR>> > > West Park the focus of a<BR>> > > bond levy (as opposed to a plant facilities or<BR>> > > supplemental or other levy)"<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Keely, WHAT does this mean? I know it's "about the<BR>> > > Kids", all of your<BR>> > > advertising and yard signs say that, but what does<BR>> > > it mean? "... a bond<BR>> > > might best meet the needs of the students at WP<BR>>and<BR>> > > R." You didn't answer my<BR>> > > first question, how does 4.6 million and 4.0<BR>>million<BR>> > > add up to 15 million?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > "... the root of his objections is his conviction<BR>> > > that "government schools"<BR>> > > are inherently evil and unworthy of his support" I<BR>> > > have never
stated<BR>> > > anywhere to anyone that government schools are<BR>>evil.<BR>> > > You can have your<BR>> > > schools just manage the monies you confiscate from<BR>> > > the public better. You<BR>> > > don't need 12 students in each class at least get<BR>> > > back to the goal of 20<BR>> > > -25. (2230/175=12.75, 2230/22.5=100) do away with<BR>> > > 50-75 teachers and live<BR>> > > within your means you will have 3-5 million to<BR>>start<BR>> > > one heck of a building<BR>> > > savings account. Do away with high priced<BR>> > > adminstrators and you make 1<BR>> > > million more. MSD is BLOATED from the top down.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > "One other thing: I'll rejoice on the day Heirdoug<BR>> > > gets his enthusiasm and<BR>> > > information
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