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<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT><FONT size=4>Pat writes:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>"But then I don't live in Lewiston and rarely
go down there. If I did live there I would certainly check it
out."<BR></STRONG></FONT><FONT size=4> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Like others on this list I am amazed and overwhelmed at the
depth of your compassion and concern for your fellow humankind and
neighbors.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: "Pat Kraut" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:pkraut@moscow.com"><FONT size=4>pkraut@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT
size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: "vision2020" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:59 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> Perhaps some of the newer
citizens don't know this but Dworshak actually had<BR>> a crack in it that I
believe has been fixed. I can assure you that it was<BR>> something that
prompted a lot of planning and thought on all of us. Yes, it<BR>> could
happen. An earthquake and it would be one huge wall of water coming<BR>> down
that canyon that would clear everything in its path. As I remember the<BR>>
talk at that time the wall would go at least half way to Portland. But,<BR>>
plans were made and I don't think they would lose them. If they are
updated<BR>> I don't know. But then I don't live in Lewiston and rarely go
down there.<BR>> If I did live there I would certainly check it out.<BR>>
PK<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Kit
Craine" <</FONT><A href="mailto:kcraine@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>kcraine@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>><BR>> To: "Pat Kraut"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:pkraut@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>pkraut@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>><BR>> Cc: "vision2020"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>><BR>> Sent: Thursday,
September 08, 2005 6:28 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and
CO2<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> However, imagine Dworsak (or however its spelled)
beginning to bulge.<BR>> Theres just enough time to evacuate maybe 10,000
people up the<BR>> hill--to Moscow. Then, the dam breaks! Lewiston,
Clarkston, Lapwai,<BR>> Orofino, and may other towns in the canyons are wiped
out!<BR>> <BR>> Of course, the levees do no good. We just lose a chunk of
our place and<BR>> a few people.<BR>> <BR>> Moving right along, to the
next topic.<BR>> <BR>> Kit Craine<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Sep 8,
2005, at 4:45 PM, Pat Kraut wrote:<BR>> <BR>>> No wonder I feel
sometimes that I am missing part of the conversation!<BR>>> I just checked
my postini account at FSR and there were some emails<BR>>> there of which
this is one.<BR>>> Lewiston and Clarkston do not get hurricanes. The ocean
is a few miles<BR>>> away. The entire area is not deteriorating the levees
are not in<BR>>> danger of breaking. Not the same thing.<BR>>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>>> From: Sunil Ramalingam<BR>>> To:
</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=4>>> Sent: Sunday,
September 04, 2005 1:19 PM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and
CO2<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Should we get rid of the levees in
Lewiston and Clarkston?<BR>>><BR>>>
Sunil<BR>>><BR>>> From: "Pat Kraut" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:pkraut@moscow.com"><FONT size=4>pkraut@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT
size=4>><BR>>> To: "vision2020" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>><BR>>> Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2<BR>>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:12:53
-0700<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> I do not want us to repair any more
levees. Something is terribly<BR>>> wrong when you can stand on a street
and see ships go by above you!<BR>>> This is an opportunity for the area
to move back and let the ocean<BR>>> have its land back. Just how much
money do you think it would take to<BR>>> 'study' it one more time. Just
how much do we spend to 'save' New<BR>>> Orleans?? It really isn't that
'special' a city! It is time to go a<BR>>> totally different
direction.<BR>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>> From: Tom
Hansen<BR>>> To: 'Andreas Schou' ; 'Pat Kraut'<BR>>> Cc:
'vision2020'<BR>>> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 6:12 AM<BR>>>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
I am with you 100%, Andreas.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Under our current president, FEMA was relegated to being a
sub-agency<BR>>> within Homeland Security, thus drastically reducing its
budget.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> And who does Bush
appoint as Under Secretary of Homeland Security for<BR>>> Emergency
Preparedness and Response
(FEMA)?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Michael D. Brown, a
former Colorado and Oklahoma attorney and former<BR>>> bar examiner on
ethics and professional responsibility for the<BR>>> Oklahoma Supreme
Court, a person with virtually no experience in<BR>>> emergency
management. An attorney in charge of our nations emergency<BR>>>
management? He may not be able to solve anything, but he will most<BR>>>
certainly be able to put some serious spin on his responses to<BR>>>
questions.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Ms Kraut
stated:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Why does everyone want
to make the Fed responsible for everything??<BR>>> When did they take
over?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> HUH?? What part of
Federal Emergency Management are you struggling<BR>>> with, Ms
Kraut?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> FEMA is struggling to
identify additional large temporary holding<BR>>> facilities (comparable
to the Houston Astrodome). This is a simple<BR>>> question that should
have been addressed a couple years ago when the<BR>>> mayor of New Orleans
and the governor of Louisiana were seeking<BR>>> federal funds to repair
the 17th Street levee.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> But then,
we wouldnt want to interrupt George Bushs vacation with<BR>>> something
so trivial now, would
we?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Tom
Hansen<BR>>><BR>>> Moscow,
Idaho<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> "If not us,
who?<BR>>> If not now, when?"<BR>>><BR>>> -
Unknown<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: </FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=4>>>
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Schou<BR>>>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 8:02 PM<BR>>> To: Pat Kraut<BR>>>
Cc: vision2020<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and
CO2<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On
9/3/05, Pat Kraut <</FONT><A href="mailto:pkraut@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>pkraut@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> I disagree! Someone in Louisiana should have told
her! Why does<BR>>> everyone<BR>>> want to make the Fed responsible
for everything?? When did they take<BR>>> over?<BR>>> The
locals could have done whole rescue operation if they had paid<BR>>>
attention. There is a picture circulating showing the school buses
all<BR>>> under<BR>>> water. The mayor could have confiscated them
and sent those people out<BR>>> of<BR>>> town by force. But, he
keeps yelling about the feds not coming in<BR>>> time! He<BR>>> is
just hoping no one asks him too many
questions.\<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Pat
--<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> It is the federal
government's responsibility, like it or not, to do<BR>>> disaster relief.
You can argue about whether or not it should be their<BR>>> responsibility
later, but the fact is, at the time of Hurricane<BR>>> Katrina, it was
FEMA's responsibility to handle the evacuation<BR>>> planning and then
pick up the pieces.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> George W.
had put a chronic fuck-up in charge of FEMA who was fired<BR>>> from his
last job for malfeasance, dismantled their planning office as<BR>>> it
transitioned to the Department of Homeland Security, sent the<BR>>>
Louisiana National Guard to search for phantom WMDs in Iraq, cut all<BR>>>
disaster mitigation funding to the /entire state/ of Louisiana, and<BR>>>
defunded the levees. It is at his desk that the buck stops, but he
and<BR>>> his stand-ins are doing their best to blame everybody else:
the<BR>>> victims, the first responders, the police, the looters. Thisis
a<BR>>> failure of management at the highest levels: food was dropped in
Banda<BR>>> Aceh, Indonesia, within /two days/ of the tsunami. Food got to
New<BR>>> Orleans, LA, /today/, or six days after the hurricane. We are
a<BR>>> first-world nation. This should not be happening
here.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> If I had done this in my
work, I would have had my ass canned, and<BR>>> then I would have been
sued, and for God's sake, they would have been<BR>>> right to do it, too.
This administration has abdicated any pretense of<BR>>> taking
responsibility for its<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> --
ACS<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
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