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<DIV><FONT size=4>To those able to read and comprehend:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Doug Farris offers another sterling example of Christ Church
Cult abysmal ignorance and arrogance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I offered a set of questions upon whose answers there is no
agreement among many sincere and/or scholarly Christians (this group may not
contain the hierarchy of the cult). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The point was: If there is an all-powerful, all-knowing,
perfectly good god, why are his alleged "word" not clearly agreed upon by his
followers? Since followers of this alleged god and his alleged "word" do
not agree on its meaning, interpretation, and/or message of his "word" and
worst yet are among those who have caused a great deal of human suffering, etc.
through the ages in the name of this alleged god and its alleged "word", the
most logical alternatives to this irrational belief are:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>1. There is no such god as
described;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>2. If there is a real god, it is a sadistic
monster or totally indifferent to the human condition.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4><STRONG>Clearly, if there was an all-powerful.
all-knowing god, perfectly good god, it would be capable of timely delivering
for every generation clear, unequivocal, unmistakable,
unmisinterpretable instructions about how to behave and thus how to "earn"
eternal bliss.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Clearly, such has not happened. (Farris, please look up
<EM>modus tollens</EM>.) Therefore, can you say "Fairy Tale"?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Instead of responding to this problem, Farris densely and
arrogantly adds his version of the answers to the questions to that of millions
of other differing answers and reasons given.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>That Farris, his cult peers, and its flimflaming master,
Parson Douglas Wilson, are either unable to see the problem above or unable to
public acknowledge it once again demonstrates their ignorance,
arrogance, and mental health status -- </FONT><FONT color=#ff0000
size=5><STRONG>We're the only ones (out of billions) who own the
truth!</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To those amused or astounded by the following
exchange:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>W: Is heaven a temporal/<STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff>spatial</FONT> </STRONG>realm?<BR>F: I’m
not sure, I have never been <FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG>there</STRONG></FONT>. I
have entered into the heavenlies every Lord’s Day.<BR><FONT size=4>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I refer you both religious scholars and scientists who discuss
why certain people's faith are like a narcotic addiction. Also, notice the
use of the word "there" in Farris's response in context.
Curious.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT><BR><FONT size=4>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR></FONT><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT size=4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: <</FONT><A href="mailto:heirloom@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>heirloom@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:13 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: [Vision2020] Wayne has a question or
15!</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> <BR>> Wayne Fox wants to
know:<BR>> <BR>> For example:<BR>> <Where and when Jesus was
born?><BR>> In a manger in Bethlehem, in the fullness of
time!<BR>> <BR>> <Which words in the bible were actually spoken by
Jesus and which were <BR>> made up by persons with their own
agendas/interpretations?><BR>> The ones in red are His and all
the other ones are the Holy Spirits. - <BR>> For the prophecy came not
in old time by the will of man: but holy men of <BR>> God spake as they were
moved by the Holy Ghost.<BR>> <BR>> <If Jesus was the result of an
"immaculate conception" (curious term, <BR>> indicating disdain and disgust
with the joy of the normal reproductive <BR>> process) or was he the result
of Joseph's (or someone else's) <BR>> interdiction. If the former, then
Jesus could not be descended from David <BR>> via Joseph's and other
interveners' begetting as claimed.><BR>> Mary was also a member of
the line of David and as Jesus’ earthly <BR>> overseer, by marriage, Joseph
was the other side going back to David. So <BR>> that would make Jesus the
Son of David through both blood lines. - Which <BR>> were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of <BR>> man, but of God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we <BR>> beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full <BR>> of grace
and truth. <BR>> <BR>> At this point I will try to answer the question in
a more logical order <BR>> than the way they were presented.<BR>> <BR>>
<Does god have a gender?><BR>> See above verse begotten of
the Father (that would be masculine in <BR>> gender) Your question is asking
is God the Father have male or female <BR>> genitals. The answer to that
would be: - God is not a man, that he should <BR>> lie, nor a son of man,
that he should change his mind. Does he speak and <BR>> then not act? Does he
promise and not fulfill? <BR>> <BR>> <Is heaven a temporal/spatial
realm?><BR>> I’m not sure, I have never been there. I have
entered into the <BR>> heavenlies every Lord’s Day.<BR>> <BR>> <Do
you have to be a Christian or even believe in god to be eligible for <BR>>
eternal reward?><BR>> If you can satisfy all the
Creator/Judge’s legal requirements and are <BR>> perfectly Holy according to
His standard, then No you do not have to be a <BR>> Christian. But if you
fail in any one area then the answer is Yes. – What <BR>> then? If some did
not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the <BR>> faithfulness of God,
will it? May it never be! Rather, let God be found <BR>> true, though every
man be found a liar, as it is
written,<BR>> “THAT YOU MAY
BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR
WORDS,<BR>> AND PREVAIL WHEN
YOU ARE JUDGED." <BR>> <BR>> <Are all non-Christians damned to eternal
punishment?><BR>> All who do not live by Faith are damned to
eternal punishment.<BR>> <BR>> The next few questions would be what I call
side stepping the main issue <BR>> questions:<BR>> <BR>> <Are
blacks inferior/subservient to whites?><BR>> It depends if
your Charles Darwin and Margaret Sanger or not!<BR>> <BR>> <Is slavery
permissible?(I assume you mean in the scriptures?)><BR>> Yes!
<BR>> <BR>> <Is capital punishment permissible?><BR>>
Yes!<BR>> <BR>> <Is abortion permissible?><BR>>
No!<BR>> <BR>> <Are monogamous homosexual relations
permissible?><BR>> No!<BR>> <BR>> <Is it permissible
to lie in order to forward some alleged works on behalf <BR>> of
god?><BR>> Can you disguise yourself as a bush when you are a
tank during war <BR>> time, Yes!<BR>> <BR>> The last set of questions
we can classify as religious practice ones:<BR>> <BR>> <Can women be
religious/spiritual professionals/counselors?><BR>> They can
be anything they want. Can they be elders, then no!<BR>> <BR>> <Is
prayer to be private or public?><BR>> Both.<BR>> <BR>>
<Do Christians have a duty to protect and conserve natural resources and
<BR>> wildlife?><BR>> What part of ‘be fruitful and subdue
the earth’ do you not understand! <BR>> That’s what it means!<BR>>
<BR>> <Is the Pope infallible?><BR>> If you are a Roman
Catholic the answer would be yes, if one is a <BR>> Trinitarian the answer
would be no.<BR>> <BR>> <Does the bread and wine of communion become
the actual blood and flesh of <BR>> Christ at the moment of
ingestion?><BR>> See above!<BR>> <BR>> <If your
alleged god is powerful, smart, and good, couldn't she/it/he have <BR>>
written much clearer, ultimately more persuasive instructions to live
<BR>> correctly and to attain eternal bliss so as to not only avoid any
<BR>> confusion, even among the feeble witted, but to avoid all the
corruption, <BR>> torture, war, oppression, human and animal suffering, and
divisiveness <BR>> which has occurred and continues to occur in the name of
this alleged god <BR>> and its/hers/his "word"?><BR>> <BR>> Wayne,
My God IS all-powerful, all-smart and all-good. He has made things <BR>>
pretty clear. One only needs to live by Faith.<BR>> <BR>> I hope this
clear things up for you!<BR>> <BR>> Lemeno, Doug<BR>>
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