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<DIV><FONT size=4>Donovan writes:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>{[</FONT>"Is his alleged god so disabled, inept, and
illiterate that his alleged words needs 'sidebars'?" </DIV>
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<DIV>Wayne Fox<FONT size=4>]</FONT><BR> <BR>No Wayne. He put the sidebars
there because you are so inept and illiterate and could not figure out that
He supports people coming together in prayer.<BR><BR>PS, I would not go
around calling God disabled, inept, and illiterate.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Let's see:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Do you not see logical and epistemological problems inherent
in claiming:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>[1] Some alleged god is omnipotent,
omniscient, and ominbenevolent, and</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>[2] That the bible, the alleged "word" of
this alleged god, is so unclear, confusing, and inconsistent that there are
millions of different interpretations of it, each brutally different (as
are some of the actions consequent) and inconsistent with each
other?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Perhaps you have been so busy that you have failed to notice
that there are many, many persons who are sincere Christians, including
many scholars who have spent their lives studying the bible and studying the
works of others in the past who have spent their lives studying the bible,
<STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5>cannot even agree</FONT></STRONG> on some
<FONT color=#ff0000 size=5><STRONG>very basic elements of the so-called
Christian faith</STRONG></FONT>.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>For example:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Where and when Jesus was born?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Which words in the bible were actually spoken by Jesus
and which were made up by persons with their own
agendas/interpretations?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>If Jesus was the result of an "immaculate conception" (curious
term, indicating disdain and disgust with the joy of the normal reproductive
process) or was he the result of Joseph's (or someone else's)
interdiction. If the former, then Jesus could not be descended
from David via Joseph's and other interveners' begetting as
claimed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Is capital punishment permissible?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Is abortion permissible?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Are monogamous homosexual relations permissible?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Is it permissible to lie in order to forward some alleged
works on behalf of god?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Do you have to be a Christian or even believe in god to be
eligible for eternal reward?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Are all non-Christians damned to eternal
punishment?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Is slavery permissible?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Can women be religious/spiritual
professionals/counselors?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Are blacks inferior/subservient to whites?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Is prayer to be private or public?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Do Christians have a duty to protect and conserve natural
resources and wildlife?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Does the bread and wine of communion become the actual
blood and flesh of Christ at the moment of ingestion?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Is the Pope infallible?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Does god have a gender?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Is heaven a temporal/spatial realm?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>If your alleged god is powerful, smart, and good, <FONT
color=#ff0000 size=5><STRONG>couldn't she/it/he have written much clearer,
ultimately more persuasive instructions</STRONG></FONT> to live
correctly and to attain eternal bliss so as to not only avoid any confusion,
even among the feeble witted, but to avoid all the corruption, torture, war,
oppression, human and animal suffering, and divisiveness which has occurred
and continues to occur in the name of this alleged god and its/hers/his
"word"?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>You write:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>PS, I would not go around calling God disabled, inept, and
illiterate.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Based on the mode of existence, there is no evidence that
there is any difference between making these statements of some alleged god or
making them of Porky Pig or Count Dracula. Their mode of existence appears
the same -- fantasy.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR> </FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>