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<P>Thank God (there, I'll set aside my grudge for a moment) that a negative, hateful,vindictive post was followed by a conciliatory, loving and embracing one. We will all fare better for it.<BR><BR>Sunil</P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></I><BR>To: <I>DonaldH675@aol.com, pcnisbet1@hotmail.com, vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020] Toleration</I><BR>Date: <I>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:42:19 -0700 (PDT)</I><BR>>"Because Moscow is small it is relatively easy to<BR>>identify the deliberate liars, manipulators, stingy,<BR>>intolerant, law-breakers among us. In our currently<BR>>"divided" community both factions claim to have that<BR>>knowledge and experience of the other.<BR>><BR>>This is the most negative, awful, vindictive, full of<BR>>hate and spite description of Moscow I have ever heard<BR>>that can only serve to tear at the unity and<BR>>compassion of our community. People should be upset<BR>>being told they are associated with this kind
of<BR>>community. This certainly does not describe most the<BR>>people I know. Most people in Moscow are helpful,<BR>>kind, accepting, educated, and out to get along with<BR>>others.<BR>><BR>>Politics to me is like ice cream. I do not care what<BR>>flavor you like. But it is how you treat your<BR>>neighbors I think that we will all one day be judged<BR>>by.<BR>><BR>>I have always prided myself as being fairly liberal. I<BR>>believe in gay marriage, started the Gay Straight<BR>>Alliance at North Idaho College, I am for expansion of<BR>>the government to provide more needed services, I am<BR>>pro-choice, I am anti-Bush, and marched against this<BR>>war back in March of 2003 when 75% of the people were<BR>>for it. I have served the Democratic Party, MCA, and<BR>>other liberal local candidates for their campaigns and<BR>>fundraisers. I
was a delegate for Al Gore in 2000 and<BR>>an alternative delegate for Dennis Kucinich in 2004. I<BR>>was even backed by the UI student Socialist Party when<BR>>I was in student government.<BR>><BR>>But I do have to say that while I lean left I am also<BR>>leaning over and puking because I am associated<BR>>politically with the type of hostility and hatred that<BR>>spews from other liberals in our community toward<BR>>their neighbors.<BR>><BR>>Some liberals in our community have no life and must<BR>>spend it degrading others and pursuing personal and<BR>>character flaws of those that they oppose in the<BR>>political arena. They insist their enemies follow<BR>>every law no matter how flawed the law and at the same<BR>>time ignore the laws that they and their friends<BR>>violate.<BR>><BR>>They pursue even the most frivolous of claims
and<BR>>stretch and twist any word they can find in the law to<BR>>make it fit their warped interpretation of law, which<BR>>always the cruelest and most destructive, and<BR>>endlessly wipe people into submission and acceptance<BR>>of it with sharp forked tongues.<BR>><BR>>Then they pretend, and lie even amongst themselves<BR>>that what they do they do for justice. But they know<BR>>in their hearts it is not for justice, but for their<BR>>own personal vengeance.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Donovan J Arnold<BR>><BR>><BR>>--- DonaldH675@aol.com wrote:<BR>><BR>> > Visionaries and Mr. Nisbet:<BR>> ><BR>> > Rather than smirk about "how totally 'cosmopolitan'<BR>> > and so free from petty<BR>> > parochialism this town is" much less to sustain Mr.<BR>> > Nisbet's claim that<BR>> > farmers and ranchers tend
to be more tolerant of<BR>> > diversity, one need only examine<BR>> > the well documented history of North America. The<BR>> > sad and sorry story of the<BR>> > development of rural American is the saga of<BR>> > Euro-American land grabs,<BR>> > genocide of indigenous people, and environmental<BR>> > disasters created by extractive<BR>> > industries which took place across this continent<BR>> > from 16th century conquest<BR>> > and settlement down to the present.<BR>> ><BR>> > The notion that loggers and farmers are somehow<BR>> > uniquely tolerant is absurd.<BR>> > I argue, instead, that people living in areas of<BR>> > low population density<BR>> > often have direct experience and
first-hand<BR>> > knowledge of the character of their<BR>> > neighbors and judge them accordingly. Their<BR>> > "tolerance" is predicated on the<BR>> > same standards that people around the world (even<BR>> > in urban areas) apply,<BR>> > i.e. is the neighbor truthful, kind, generous,<BR>> > observant of cultural and<BR>> > community standards etc.<BR>> ><BR>> > Because Moscow is small it is relatively easy to<BR>> > identify the deliberate<BR>> > liars, manipulators, stingy, intolerant,<BR>> > law-breakers among us. In our<BR>> > currently "divided" community both factions claim to<BR>> > have that knowledge and<BR>> > experience of the other. For those interested in<BR>> >
sorting out the claims a great<BR>> > deal of factual evidence is available.<BR>> ><BR>> > If one limits the argument to only zoning code<BR>> > violations significant data<BR>> > has been placed on-line and on the city record to<BR>> > demonstrate a continual and<BR>> > on-going attitude of defiance toward community<BR>> > regulations. New St. Andrews<BR>> > College administrators, the very same folks who are<BR>> > leading the college<BR>> > today, and Christ Church leaders, (who are one and<BR>> > the same) have, for the past<BR>> > five years ignored zoning requirements. Clearly,<BR>> > they act on the premise that<BR>> > their personal desires take precedence over<BR>> > community ordinances. This<BR>> >
behavior is modeled and passed along to Logos<BR>> > School students, NSA graduates, and<BR>> > church members. How else can the 4 year presence<BR>> > of Atlas Academy in the<BR>> > NuArt Theater be explained? How else can large<BR>> > boarding houses (owned by<BR>> > members of Doug Wilson's church) operate without the<BR>> > required conditional use<BR>> > permits? How else can St. Monica's (a private<BR>> > girl's school) operate without a<BR>> > conditional use permit?<BR>> ><BR>> > The thickest numbskull should recognize a pattern of<BR>> > behavior in the<BR>> > examples provided above. Given the tightly knit<BR>> > character of the Christ<BR>> > Church/Trinity Reformed community, most, if not
all<BR>> > members knew of these illegal<BR>> > activities, and not only tolerated them they<BR>> > supported or emulated them.<BR>> ><BR>> > How is it that apparently not a single church member<BR>> > thought to inquire<BR>> > about city ordinances related to their activities?<BR>> > This is particularly<BR>> > breathtaking when one considers that a church<BR>> > member, Todd Flack, sits on the City of<BR>> > Moscow Planning and Zoning Commission. If he were<BR>> > shy about bringing the<BR>> > "bad news" that zoning laws in Moscow regulate these<BR>> > activities, perhaps his<BR>> > father-in-law, an elder of Christ Church, might have<BR>> > been willing to alert<BR>> > other church
leaders. Instead, Todd Flack followed<BR>> > the example of his pastor and<BR>> > other church leaders and instituted his own<BR>> > boarding house.<BR>> ><BR>> > I don't appreciate this peculiar "tolerance" and<BR>> > encouragement for breaking<BR>> > the law. Neither do community members who are<BR>> > impacted by the illegal<BR>> > activities. If that makes me guilty of "petty<BR>> > parochialism" I claim the label<BR>> > cheerfully.<BR>> ><BR>> > Rose Huskey<BR>> > "And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him<BR>> > five smooth stones out of<BR>> > the brook, and put them in a shepherd's bag which he<BR>> > had, even in a scrip;<BR>> > and his sling [was] in his hand: and he drew near to<BR>>
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