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<P>Donovan,</P>
<P>I want you to be able to say all the prayers you want, whenever and wherever you want, as long as you want, as long as I don't have to hear them. I want you to practice your religion, but not at the expense of my time if it's at a public meeting. If we're at your church, I'm more than willing to listen to you pray out loud, because I have the simple choice of not going there at all.<BR><BR>It does not follow that you are being forced to practice atheism if you don't pray at a public meeting. You're not going to be dragged to a gulag, or barred from private prayer or from attending your church. You're simply not going to be able to use up other people's time at a public meeting for something you can do silently at that meeting.</P>
<P>Politicians want to pray at public meetings so they can act pious for the cameras and the public. You think W's praying is working out well for us?</P>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></I><BR>To: <I>Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com>, joanopyr@earthlink.net, vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>RE: [Vision2020] Public prayer on public money</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:31:15 -0700 (PDT)</I><BR>>The Government representing a FAITH or Religion is<BR>>against the Constitution Mr. Hansen. Allowing a moment<BR>>to pray does not.<BR>><BR>>Further, it would be unfair that 95% of the people get<BR>>only the same amount of time as the other 5%. The<BR>>government represents people, not Gods, so it should<BR>>be the people, not Gods that get equal time.<BR>><BR>>Finally, by not allowing prayer you force people to<BR>>follow atheism, by allowing prayer you do not force<BR>>atheists to say the prayer. Therefore, it
is<BR>>discriminatory NOT to allow prayer because you are<BR>>preventing them from practicing their faith and<BR>>forcing them to practice another.<BR>><BR>>What you are saying is that because my moment of<BR>>worship does not suit everybody, I cannot practice it.<BR>>This is the state stopping me from my free exercise of<BR>>religion.<BR>><BR>>Donovan J Arnold<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>--- Tom Hansen <ththansenomoscowom> wrote:<BR>><BR>> > As I have stated twice before, Arnold -<BR>> ><BR>> > I would be more than willing to support prayer at<BR>> > all city council sessions,<BR>> > provided that each (and EVERY) faith represented<BR>> > within Moscow is provided<BR>> > "equal time".<BR>> ><BR>> > Lacking this possibility, the session further lacks<BR>> > equality. And I
am<BR>> > certain that you wouldn't want that, now would you?<BR>> ><BR>> > Enough said.<BR>> ><BR>> > Tom Hansen<BR>> > Moscow, Idaho<BR>> ><BR>> > "If not us, who?<BR>> > If not now, when?"<BR>> ><BR>> > - Unknown<BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> ><BR>> > From: Donovan Arnold<BR>> > [mamailtoodonovanjarnold05@yahoo.com]<BR>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:57 PM<BR>> > To: Tom Hansen; jojoanopyraearthlinket;<BR>> > vision2020@momoscowom<BR>> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Public prayer on public<BR>> > money<BR>> ><BR>> > Mr. Hansen,<BR>> ><BR>> > You are only offering circular arguments. A speaker<BR>> > can also ignore a prayer completely at a meeting<BR>> > too.<BR>> > You silly man. So why not let
those that believe in<BR>> > praying before conducting important business pray<BR>> > and<BR>> > those that wish not to think about something else.<BR>> > Why<BR>> > should those that wish to pray be denied. If you<BR>> > allow<BR>> > prayer, everyone gets what they want. If you<BR>> > disallow<BR>> > prayer only those that wish not to pray get what<BR>> > they<BR>> > want.<BR>> ><BR>> > Donovan J Arnold<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>____________________________________________________<BR>>Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page<BR>>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs<BR>><BR>><BR>>_____________________________________________________<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> serving the
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