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Sunil, Paul et. al.<BR>
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In response to Sunil's response to Paul about soldiers who speak out against President Bush, I thought it might be informative to remind everyone there is a web site "Iraq Veteran's Against the War:"<BR>
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<A HREF="http://www.ivaw.net">http://www.ivaw.net</A><BR>
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Co-founded by Tim Goodrich (info about and statements by Goodrich at bottom here), a veteran of US military missions in Afghanistan and Iraq, Sunil and/or Paul might consider e-mailing him at the e-mail address below for feedback about what happen to soldiers who speak out against the Iraq war, or just visit the IVAW website for stories relating to this that are on the first page viewed at the web link above:<BR>
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ivaw_west@ivaw.net<BR>
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Sunil wrote on 7/29/05:<BR>
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Paul,<BR>
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May a soldier who believes that President Bush misled the country as to the reasons for the Iraq War speak out and make this accusation against the President? May such a soldier publicly question and criticize the President? Can he write an article and say "The commander in chief is a liar?" Would there be any negative consequences from that sort of speech?<BR>
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Sunil Ramalingam<BR>
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Text below from:<BR>
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<A HREF="http://www.accuracy.org">http://www.accuracy.org</A><BR>
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Goodrich is co-founder of Iraq Veterans Against the War, a member of the After Downing Street coalition. He will be speaking at an event on July 23 in Inglewood, Calif., hosted by Rep. Maxine Waters. From a family with a tradition of military service, Goodrich grew up in Buffalo, N.Y., and enlisted in the Air Force at the age of 18. He deployed overseas twice in support of Operation Southern Watch (patrolling the southern "no-fly zone" over Iraq) and once in support of Operation Enduring Freedom (operations against Afghanistan), where he earned combat veteran status. His last deployment was spent supporting the bombing of Iraq before the formal commencement of hostilities. Goodrich said today: "Downing Street memos show without a doubt that Bush and Blair were intent on invading Iraq despite the diplomatic outcome. This is a betrayal of trust to the people of the world and there must now be accountability, combined with immediate withdrawal of all occupying forces in Iraq." Last month, Goodrich testified in the World Tribunal on Iraq where he said: "I was there in Iraq in fall of 2002 when the war was already happening even though it was not officially announced. We were dropping bombs then, and I saw bombing intensify as a part of the 'softening up' of Iraq's defenses. All the documents coming out now, the Downing Street memo and others, confirm what I had witnessed in Iraq. The war had already begun while our leaders were telling us that they were going to try all diplomatic options first." <BR>
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