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<DIV>Visionaries and Donovan,</DIV>
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<DIV>Careful reading is a useful skill Donovan - and one that seems to have
escaped you.</DIV>
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<DIV>In fact, the rental for the Kibbie Dome - catch that word <STRONG>rental,
</STRONG>Donovan? - for the Trinity Festival, an event which runs from
Sunday morning until Wednesday night, <STRONG>is $3,000.</STRONG>
Basic math is the next skill needed here. Let's see $3,000 divided by 4
(hold on to you hat, Donovan, this is tricky) is $750/day. It is not
rocket science, it is 4th grade math. And, guess what? It is exactly what
Saundra said it was.</DIV>
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<DIV>Are there associated costs? Of course. However, they are not
rental, they are for setting up - breaking down - and custodial service.
They total $6,000. Hell bells, don't take my word for it - take a look at
the actual contract which is scanned and up on line at:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/TF2K5/Documents/Contract%20110304.pdf">http://www.tomandrodna.com/TF2K5/Documents/Contract%20110304.pdf</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Further, the standard fee for non-profit organizations to rent the Kibbie
Dome is $2,000/day (the Dome management figures a 20 hour day in this
situation). You tell us, Donovan, why a four day rental (and don't confuse
the issue with such difficult additional problems as set up and break
down) doesn't come out to $8,000? No answer, Donovan? Don't feel too
badly about it, the UI doesn't have one either. Maybe they need you back
in the Senate? No, on second thought, probably not.</DIV>
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<DIV>Of course the entire event will cost more than $6,300 because more is
involved than use of the building. If one is planning a jazzy event, one
needs audio support, stages, chairs, etc. Let's take a close look at that
part of the contract next. <A
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/TF2K5/Documents/Financial_Estimate_052604_1.pdf">http://www.tomandrodna.com/TF2K5/Documents/Financial_Estimate_052604_1.pdf</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Please notice that this is the billing estimate from Conferences and
Events.</DIV>
<DIV>Do you see the red box, Donovan? I grant you that the numbers are
hard to read but second grade math comes to the rescue. The
first line below Conferences and Events says:</DIV>
<DIV>PRODUCTION SUPPORT
SUBTOTAL 24,
320.00</DIV>
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<DIV> the next line says: EVENTS SERVICES EQUIPMENT DONATIONS (50% OFF) $7,
160.00</DIV>
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<DIV>next line:</DIV>
<DIV>PRODUCTION SUPPORT GRAND
TOTAL $17,160.00</DIV>
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<DIV>News Flash, Donovan: You have just seen the operation of subtraction
taking place. $24,320 minus 7,160 equals:
$17,160.00 </DIV>
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<DIV>Here is the only real question of interest, <U>why the donation</U>?
The Idaho constitution appears to forbid the use of state money for sectarian
events.</DIV>
<DIV>Don't believe me, Donovan? Try this link out:</DIV>
<DIV><A title=http://www.idsos.state.id.us/elect/stcon/articl09.htm
href="http://www.idsos.state.id.us/elect/stcon/articl09.htm">http://www.idsos.state.id.us/elect/stcon/articl09.htm</A></DIV>
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<DIV>A summary of the expenditures related to the Kibbie Dome and Conferences
and events can be found at: <A
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/images/Estimated_Program_Budget_110304_01.jpg">http://www.tomandrodna.com/images/Estimated_Program_Budget_110304_01.jpg</A></DIV>
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<DIV>However, this is not the end of the story. Saundra and I filed
another public records request today. This one includes copies of
contracts for the use of the Student Union Ballroom, the Arboretum, the Golf
Course and the UI Auditorium. It is our sincere hope that none of this
organizations are "donating" any more of our tax dollars to this
event. We shall see, and we shall ask our webmaster to post the
results of our public records request, just as we always do. One
of the many differences between us, Donovan, is that we don't blow hot air
and half-assed opinions, we provide independent documentation to buttress
our arguments.</DIV>
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<DIV>The fact of the matter appears to be, Donovan, that either you are
unable or unwilling to absorb the reading material available.
Your email was based on a foundational mis-understanding of the word rent,
and an event greater ignorance of the other costly factors involved in staging
another non-history conference.</DIV>
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<DIV>Your careful editing of Saundra's post, Donovan, overlooks the central part
of her message which, in essence is the same message I posted above.</DIV>
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<DIV>"Of *course* your Trinity Festival is going to cost more than just the
Dome<BR>rental because you are making your Festival a production :-) As
you should<BR>be well aware, the facility rental -- the sole topic of my post --
is<BR>separate from other services provided by say . . . Events
Services,<BR>University Dining Services, ITS Video Services, administrative
service fees,<BR>liability insurance, concession stands, printing, security,
etc."</DIV>
<DIV>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-March/015168.html</DIV>
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<DIV>So, Donovan, why don't you turn that clever little mind of yours to ponder
the meaning of the word "donations." Sort out the reason for decreased rental
fees (remember the $2,000 x 4 days = $ $8,000. When you get those issues
settled maybe then you will have time to explain to the rest of us why you
spend so much time spinning your wheels and sputtering over
non-issues.</DIV>
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<DIV>Rose Huskey</DIV>
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<DIV>PS The only apology due around here is from the Kirk - for bringing
this dog and pony show back to the University.<BR>And by the way, when I add the
$5,000 rent price break, to the donation of $7,160 I get $12,160 that is going
scot free to the Kirk. And you know what? I don't feel so good about
that.</DIV>
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