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<DIV><FONT size=4>Normal People,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>The post from Andreas is right on target. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Combine this with material submitted several times showing
that the Cult Master and his ovine, mesmerized flock believe that stoning to
death is the proper treatment for a whole host of people -- perhaps 80% or more
of the world's population. [Without recycling, there may not be enough
stones of the proper size for this task!]</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Here are the views of the Christ Church Cult as expressed by
Gregor Dickison, Cult Attorney, and agreed to by the Cult Master in several
places including an article in the <EM>LMT</EM> -- "We should never be
ashamed of anything in the bible."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4><A
href="http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol3/magi3-9.htm">http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol3/magi3-9.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"The<FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG> civil magistrate</STRONG></FONT> is the
minister of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer (Rom. 13:4). God has not left
his civil minister without guidance on how to exercise his office. The
Scriptures set forth clear standards of judgment for many offenses. Capital
crimes, for example, include <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>premeditated killing
(murder), kidnapping, sorcery, bestiality, adultery, homosexuality, and cursing
one's parents</FONT></STRONG>..."</DIV>
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<P>"In contemporary American jurisprudence, none of these offenses is punishable
by death, with the occasional exception of murder. The magistrates have
dispensed with God's standards of justice. Some Christians believe this is an
improvement. They would be horrified to think that the "harsh" penalties of the
law should still be applied. Sometimes this is the result of the <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff>mistaken belief</FONT></STRONG> that the Old Testament has no
further application after the advent of Christ. This is an exegetical problem.
Too often, it is the result of a sinful view of the criminal. <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000>This sin is called pity.</FONT></STRONG>"</P>
<P><EM>"If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the
wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices
you, saying, "Let us go and serve other gods,". . . you shall not consent to him
or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or
conceal him; but you shall surely kill him..."</EM> <FONT
size=4>[Heresy: Beware, ye not of the cult!]</FONT></P>
<P><EM>"If two men fight together, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her
husband from the hand of the one attacking him, and puts out the hand and seizes
him by the genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall not pity
her..." </EM><FONT size=4>[Defending one's husband.]</FONT></P>
<P>God commands the judge to evaluate the <I>crime</I> rather than the criminal.
<FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>If the crime is one for which God requires death,
<FONT size=6>then death <FONT size=7><EM><U>must </U></EM></FONT>be the
punishment.</FONT></STRONG></FONT> Your eye <I>shall not pity</I>. <FONT
color=#ff0000><STRONG>Neither is the repentance of the accused relevant to the
imposition of the sentence.</STRONG> </FONT><FONT size=4>[Somehow it
appears that Gregor has missed the central message of Jesus.]</FONT></P>
<P>"Thus, the Bible teaches that pity is not an option where God has decided the
matter. The <FONT size=4>[civil] </FONT>magistrate, God's minister, is to
faithfully execute justice according to God's standard, not man's... This
means that we must return to an obedience which confines pity within the bounds
which God has established for us."</P>
<P><FONT size=4>Let's see: Murder (by even a child), kidnapping,
sorcery, bestiality, adultery, homosexuality, cursing one's parents, heresy,
defending one's husband, etc.</FONT><FONT size=4> should be punished by
death (by stoning) according to Gregor and by the extension of the Cult Master's
statements, all of the Christ Church Cult. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>All these rules are established by the Cult
Master's exclusive version of his alleged god, not one of the thousands
(millions?) of other alleged gods, and with no accepted, successful method to
decide which of these alleged gods, if any, is/are the real one(s).</FONT></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=7>Are these the views of mentally
healthy adults?</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=7></FONT></STRONG> </P>
<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=7><STRONG>Would you want to live anywhere where they
(the Christ Church Cult) were in control?</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=4>Andreas writes:</FONT></P>
<P>"What is crazy is not that people object to this: what is crazy is that we,
which is to say, Moscow and Latah County, are electing people who subscribe to
this set of beliefs to public office. What is crazy is that we're taking their
openly hypocritical cries for tolerance seriously."</P>
<P><FONT size=4>Tell us, Donovan, how intolerant we are when:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4><FONT size=3>"In Doug's America, you're first against the
wall."</FONT><BR></FONT><FONT size=4></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>Tolerance can end when ideas are expressed and argued for, for
if those ideas do not survive critical examination they ought not be tolerated,
especially if Draconian. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff>Tolerance is not the uncritical
acceptance of anything</FONT></STRONG> let alone the acceptance and/or
permissive ignoring of the sociopsychological, logically/epistemologically
unsound, superstitious dicta from an obscenely ambitious,
dishonest/hypocritical, but small-minded/relatively ignorant small
town parson.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: "Andreas Schou" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com"><FONT size=4>ophite@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT
size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: "Phil Nisbet" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:pcnisbet1@hotmail.com"><FONT
size=4>pcnisbet1@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Cc: <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 5:12 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Open Letter</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> Another great quote,
straight from the horse's mouth, is:<BR>> <BR>> "Reforming the State is
not about forcing people to be Christians. But<BR>> it is about forcing
people to outwardly conform to a Christian<BR>> standard and about protecting
the Christian religion. Historically,<BR>> the civil magistrate has enforced
laws against blasphemy, apostasy,<BR>> heresy, swearing, and working on the
Sabbath. The difficulty is not in<BR>> defining or punishing these crimes;
the difficulty is finding the<BR>> strength and wisdom to do so."<BR>>
<BR>> That's right. Are you a Muslim? A Jew? A Hindu? Agnostic? How about
a<BR>> Quaker or Methodist? How about a Reformed Christian who
doesn't<BR>> believe in pedobaptism -- a belief which Doug has repeatedly
referred<BR>> to as "heretical?" In Doug's America, you're first against the
wall.<BR>> What is crazy is not that people object to this: what is crazy is
that<BR>> we, which is to say, Moscow and Latah County, are electing people
who<BR>> subscribe to this set of beliefs to public office. What is crazy
is<BR>> that we're taking their openly hypocritical cries for
tolerance<BR>> seriously.<BR>> <BR>> Tolerance is a virtue. I take
appeals to my tolerance seriously, and<BR>> apprecate people who bring my
lack of tolerance to my attention.<BR>> Infinite tolerance, however --
whether it's tolerating the mugger<BR>> who's got a pistol under your nose or
agreeing to buy coffee whose<BR>> profits are devoted to preaching your own
execution -- is crazy. No<BR>> matter how idealistic you are, eventually,
some reducio ad absurdiam<BR>> will make you turn pragmatic. For me, this is
that point.<BR>> <BR>> Those who refuse to abide by core democratic
principles -- among them,<BR>> the general consent that you will not execute
your political opponents<BR>> once you attain office -- should not
participate in it at all, and be<BR>> prevented from doing so if at all
possible by those voters that<BR>> actually care about its nhealth.<BR>>
<BR>> -- ACS<BR>> <BR>>
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