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<DIV>Pat et. <SPAN class=correction id="">al</SPAN>.</DIV>
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<DIV>Good grief! </DIV>
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<DIV>I am not a follower of <SPAN class=correction id="">Scientology</SPAN> or L. Ron Hubbard. Nor am I a "follower" of R. D. <SPAN class=correction id="">Laing</SPAN>, in the sense of not critically evaluating his theories due to be being a mindless conformist to his way of looking at the world.</DIV>
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<DIV>Given that you wrote "<FONT face=Arial>The only 'controversi<SPAN class=correction id="">al</SPAN> issue' is the stupid stuff that some people read and take as fact." I assume that you consider <SPAN class=correction id="">Laing's</SPAN> work to be "stupid stuff," so I won't attempt to convince you that there is any point whatsoever that <SPAN class=correction id="">Laing</SPAN> has ever made that merits attention.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>But thanks for sharing your thoughts regarding your reading of "The Politics of Deviance." I will look into this title.</DIV>
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<DIV>From: Pat Kraut <pkraut@moscow.com><BR>To: vision2020 <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Sent: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:14:35 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Politics of Experience (definition <SPAN class=correction id="">ofschizophrenia</SPAN>)<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I thought the name <SPAN class=correction id="">Laing</SPAN> was familiar to me and when I did a search it brought up all the stuff about this aut<SPAN class=correction id="">ho</SPAN>r. He is very far out there. One of the problems with mental illness writers is that some them are so ill themselves that it really <SPAN class=correction id="">muddies</SPAN> the waters. I'd like to ask if you are a part of the <SPAN class=correction id="">Scientology</SPAN>/L Ron Hubbard group who also teach all this nonsense. I suggest before any of you read this guys stuff you do some research also on who he is, what he believes and the type of stuff he is <SPAN class=correction id="">invovled</SPAN> with. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am reading a book: The Politics of Deviance, Anne <SPAN class=correction id="">Hendershott</SPAN>. This author makes some very good point<SPAN class=correction id="">s </SPAN>about some shifts in sociologists beliefs about right and wrong, good and evil. The problem with all this 'is there or isn't there true mental illness' is that people wind up living in very dangerous conditions. If <SPAN class=correction id="">Laing</SPAN> and the <SPAN class=correction id="">Scientologist</SPAN> had their way my mother would still be living in a house in Spokane with no functioning <SPAN class=correction id="">furnance</SPAN>. Her children wanted to fix it but she explained to the salesman that 'she wasn't allowed to have a furnace because of a class she failed while attending <SPAN class=correction id="">EWU</SPAN>'. You should have seen the look on his face! When I told him that we would let him know he couldn't get out of there fas!
t enough. There is <SPAN class=correction id="">diviant</SPAN> behavior. There is good and evil. There are people who are not just 'thinking out of the box', they are ill. The brains of mentally ill people show up different on scans. Their chemistry is different in blood tests. The only 'controversial issue' is the stupid stuff that some people read and take as fact.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The <SPAN class=correction id="">simle</SPAN> truth is that if you are hearing voices in you head there is a problem.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pkraut@moscow.com href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('pkraut@moscow.com');">pkraut@moscow.com</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('vision2020@moscow.com');">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] The Politics of Experience (definition <SPAN class=correction id="">ofschizophrenia</SPAN>)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"><BR>Pat et. <SPAN class=correction id="">al</SPAN>.<BR><BR>I offered a reference for reading on the subject of ment<SPAN class=correction id="">al</SPAN> illness, and various controversi<SPAN class=correction id="">al</SPAN> issues involved on this subject, written by a psychiatrist, R. D <SPAN class=correction id="">Laing</SPAN>, who had a lot of experience dealing with the mentally ill. You might read the book before dismissing what I said. <BR><BR>Info on "The Politics of Experience" here:<BR><BR><A href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/039471475X/103-2193648-8375043?v=glance" target=_blank>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/039471475X/103-2193648-8375043?v=glance</A><BR><BR>Consider the following point, that can be read at the link above, from a reviewer of "The Politics of Experience:"<BR><BR>"To be well-adjusted to our modern <SPA!
N class=correction id="">dysfunctional</SPAN> society is not heal<SPAN class=correction id="">th</SPAN>y for the individual or society. Who is more dangerous? <SPAN class=correction id="">Laing</SPAN> asks: the psychotic who mistakenly believes he carries a hydrogen bomb in his stomach or the perfectly adjusted <SPAN class=correction id="">B-52</SPAN> bomber pilot who will drop very real hydrogen bombs when ordered to do so?"<BR>-----------------------------<BR><BR>Ted <SPAN class=correction id="">Moffett</SPAN><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></DIV><!-- end of AOLMsgPart_3_237f8d54-60d1-4424-b36d-cf318f8fea52 -->
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