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Joan et. al.<BR>
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You have a knack for expressing yourself as though you always have the last word ... and your opponents will wither before your scathing wit and vast erudition.<BR>
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I surrender!<BR>
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However, now that I am in meek supplication before your supreme wisdom, flawless logic, and rapier sarcasm, I will, with fear and trembling, point out I was careful to place the word "nuts" in quotes, indicating I was referring to Kai's use of this word in reference to the scientists who have studied and/or experimented on the Shroud of Turin.<BR>
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But Joan Opry did state that these topics drive scientists "nuts:"<BR>
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>What drives scientists nuts is string theory, or quantum mechanics, or Stephen Hawking's admission that he made a >mistake in his original work on black holes and the origins of the universe.'"<BR>
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No hair splitting here. You said it plain and simple. And scientists who sweat blood over these complex scientific issues are mortified that now on Vision2020 Joan Opry has implied they might have a screw loose!<BR>
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Joan, how could you?!<BR>
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Michio Kaku, one of the foremost theoretical physicists, who I have heard being interviewed several times, appears quite sane, yet he is one of only a handful of human beings in the world who can honestly claim to understand String Theory, as far as a human mind can understand it... Perhaps I have it wrong and he is "nuts, nuts, nuts."<BR>
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As far as naming any scientist who has been driven "nuts" by the Shroud of Turin, you should ask Kai for this information. I am not sure exactly what he meant by "nuts."<BR>
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As Tom Hansen pointed out, Nate Wilson is NOT a scientist, so this discussion of whether or not any SCIENTISTS have been driven "nuts" by the Shroud of Turin does not apply to him.<BR>
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I suggested Nate Wilson is a "self proclaimed religious artifact theorist," a title anyone can assume. If certain newspapers decide to make a big to do over a questionable "theory" about the Shroud of Turin, suggested by a local resident, to sell some copies around Easter, what is the surprise?<BR>
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I do not like the free press and apparent legitimacy this issue gave to NSA and their whole agenda anymore than you do! But what can you expect from a press that offers its readers horoscopes ... rational empirical scientific coverage of all issues?<BR>
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Ted Moffett</FONT></HTML>