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JW et. al.<BR>
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JW wrote:<BR>
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"Of course, I realize that probably *no one* is interested in this or has<BR>
even read this far in my post, but I really get the heebie-jeebies when I<BR>
see that kind of discussion taking place, because a great deal of behavior<BR>
problems, and some outright inhumanness to animals, is a result of our lack<BR>
of understanding the natural behavior of animal and how they learn." <BR>
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I read all of your post. With great interest and relief. <BR>
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Though I hope the comments by some on this list about how they treat animals was meant primarily for humor and fun, and not in seriousness, many people think it perfectly OK to abuse animals as described. But not only are these behaviors towards animals cruel, they often do not work as a training technique, as you so expertly outlined.<BR>
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Thanks.<BR>
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Ted Moffett</FONT></HTML>