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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, I ment to send this to the Vision
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Faulty intelligence" in the assertions made by
Bush, Rice and others?<BR>Kerry, Kennedy, Liberman and Clinton are in those
others!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=wocsom@earthlink.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:56
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] WMDs, Iraq &
Lies: Jan. 2003/Jan. 2005</DIV>
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PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Coop et. al.<BR><BR>Maybe this time you
could answer the arguments and facts I present here? You clearly are
avoiding responding to my fact based logic in these V2020 discussions on the
US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and the Bush administration's approach to
the War on Terror.<BR><BR>"Faulty intelligence" in the assertions made by
Bush, Rice and others?<BR><BR>In a few hours on the Internet in the months
before we invaded Iraq I discovered that the aluminum tubes obtained by Iraq
that were claimed to be for a centrifuge for nuclear fuel processing was a
false claim. Also, the yellow cake from Niger that supposedly was
obtained by Iraq for nuclear weapons production was a false story. Both
Hans Blix and former marine Scott Ridder, experts on WMDs in Iraq, both
asserted that there was no evidence that at that time in the year before we
invaded that Iraq had stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons, much less
any means of delivering them to US soil. <BR><BR>As I said, I learned all of
this in just a few hours on the Internet before we invaded Iraq. How can
these false claims used to lead us to war be "false intelligence" when the
information was available to anyone that revealed the claims of Iraq WMDs by
the Bush administration to be highly doubtful?<BR><BR>The Iraq WMD threat
spread by the Bush administration was a deliberate orchestrated propaganda
effort using trumped up scare stories aimed at whipping the US public and the
US congress into a war fever based on fear, hatred and anger to push the
invasion.<BR><BR>At the bottom of this post I offer my V2020 post dated Jan.
20, 2003 before we invaded Iraq, where I elucidate the ten real reasons to
invade, and most definitely I deliberately left out WMDs based on my research
on this issue, though I do mention that I skipped this as a reason because of
the lack of a sound basis in fact.<BR><BR>Developments since the invasion of
Iraq, as we all know, have shown no WMDs there.<BR><BR>The statements make by
Bush, Rice and others were definite and unambiguous that Iraq had WMDs and the
capacity to deliver them to US soil. The image of a "mushroom cloud"
over the US, and I am quoting Bush, was used to scare the US public into
endorsing the invasion of Iraq.<BR><BR>This was not a case of faulty
intelligence. These were flat out lies told to the US public by our
president, Condi Rice and others. For the leader of our nation to lie to
the citizens of the US to lead them into war must rank as one of the most
egregious offenses a president can commit.<BR><BR>It's possible that our
commander in chief just swallowed whatever he was told to say to the US public
about WMDs in Iraq and never checked on the facts himself directly. So
though he would then be an incompetent president, he might have really
believed what he was saying. This also renders him a failure as a
leader.<BR><BR>Ted Moffett<BR><BR><B>Ted Moffett </B><A
href="mailto:ted_moffett%40hotmail.com">ted_moffett@hotmail.com
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author ]</A> <BR><BR>All:<BR><BR>Either Krehbiel is refreshingly honest in his
approach to capitalism, <BR>rejecting the propaganda of sugar coating
militaristic imperialism with some <BR>grand holy moral cause, or we have a
sarcastic writer playing games.<BR><BR>It is already decided we will topple
Saddam, I agree. And the history of <BR>British involvement in the oil
resources of Iraq and Kuwait, coupled with <BR>the dominant role Britain plays
as the number one US ally, almost guarantees <BR>Britain's assistance.
The extreme "right wingers" who dreamed of a new <BR>"Pearl Harbor" to justify
an expansion of American military, political and <BR>economic power found
their wishes fulfilled on 9/11. Toppling Iraq is just <BR>one step in
this process.<BR><BR>The "Top 10" reasons we will topple Saddam are, in no
particular order, and <BR>skipping the complex analysis to explain some of the
reasons:<BR><BR>1. Protect Israel.<BR>2. Block any future attempts to unify
the middle east especially using oil <BR>resources as economic weapons against
the west.<BR>3. Gain immediate and future western control over Iraq oil.<BR>4.
Bolster the family pride of the Bush clan.<BR>5. Feed the power and greed of
the current cabal of hard line militarists in <BR>the Bush administration and
Pentagon.<BR>6. Give notice to other states who may challenge US economic and
political <BR>hegemony that we will use military power unilaterally against
them.<BR><BR>The following 7, 8 and 9 numbered reasons are more related to
keeping Bush <BR>in office for a second term, and other agendas of control
over the US <BR>public.<BR><BR>7. Keep the American public focused on foreign
"threats" rather than <BR>domestic economic and social problems.<BR>8.
Continue to generate a climate of fear to create a psychology of
<BR>"sacrifice" so that Americans will willingly endure the just mentioned
<BR>domestic problems.<BR>9. Continuing the assault on civil liberties with a
"1984" style endless <BR>"War On Terror" to consolidate legal and law
enforcement control over future <BR>potential "unrest" in the USA.<BR><BR>10.
And one of the main reasons to go after Iraq: We can get away with
it! <BR>Iraq is an easy military target. Iraq is weak and cannot
militarily damage <BR>anyone, unlike N. Korea who could unleash horrors on S.
Korea. Iraq has no <BR>allies who will step in to defend them.<BR><BR>Anyone
with other reasons I overlooked?<BR><BR>But what, you might say, about weapons
of mass destruction and Iraq <BR>sponsored terrorism? I think any
realistic analysis of these threats <BR>exposes them as minor, blown way out
of proportion to be used as moral <BR>justifications for what is nothing more
than good old fashioned imperialism. <BR>Numerous other states are more of a
threat with weapons of mass <BR>destruction and sponsoring
terrorism.<BR><BR>Anyone with good advice on investment
options?<BR><BR>Ted<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT>
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