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<DIV>I should have been more clear: When I meant "worship him as Lord," I
meant it in the sense of becoming a Christ-ian, or a disciple of his. I
agree, Ted -- not many folks, religious or not, find Jesus' moral and ethical
statements unimportant. But his claims and his crucifixion separate him
from merely the sum of his moral pronouncements, many of which, of course, find
their expression in other religions. My point was that to the person who
isn't a disciple of his, his deity, uniqueness, atonement, resurrection, etc.,
are just points of belief significant and particular to the
devout, but to the worshipper of Christ, they're the whole point.</DIV>
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<DIV>As always, Ted, you're gracious in pointing out those times I should have
been more clear. Nary a "neener, neener, neener" has ever escaped your
lips . . . </DIV>
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<DIV>keely</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:Tbertruss@aol.com">Tbertruss@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</A> ; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:steveemerine@webtv.net">steveemerine@webtv.net</A> ; <A
href="mailto:EmmaEAZ@aol.com">EmmaEAZ@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:35
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Merry
Christmas</DIV>
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PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Keely wrote:<BR><BR>"No one who worships Christ
as Lord believes him to be just an especially enlightened philosopher,
and those who don't worship him don't care."<BR><BR>Actually, I the
moral/ethical statements of Christ, as we understand them to be, are important
to many people who do not worship Christ, depending on what you mean
by<BR>"worship." Christ is regarded as a very important and enlightened
person and/or prophet, even by other religions, Islam among them, who do not
"worship" him in the sense I think Keely means. And many non-theistic
ethical thinkers regard Christ's ethical approach as expressing in some
respects a very high level of ethical development.<BR><BR>Ted
Moffett<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>