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<DIV><FONT size=4>Saundra</FONT>,</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>It is indeed sad.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>As many on this list have pointed out, there is a big
difference between believing in some alleged god and practicing the moral
dictates of that alleged god. You give us another example.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>[1] I see no difference between the
attitudes in the article you post and those which led to the internment of the
Japanese-Americans during World War II.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>[2] Although Wilson and Wilkins ostensibly
condemn racism, a closer look at their writings reveals a different
attitude (see Wilson's writings on marriage in <EM>Crudinto/Adumpsta</EM>
and the special advise he gives about inter-racial marriage).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Religious belief like that of beliefs about terrorism and
other emotional subjects is in part driven by fear and hope with little
rationality.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>While the tough-minded among the population condemn the
wholesale grouping of Muslims as terrorists, the seekers of power, the
weak-minded, and those with poor critical thinking skills cannot do
otherwise. Prejudice thrives on ignorance and fear and is promoted by
those who gain power, control, wealth, etc. from its practice.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: "Saundra Lund" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sslund@adelphia.net"><FONT
size=4>sslund@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 10:19 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: [Vision2020] Doug Wilson: Here's *Real*
Intolerance</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> Visionaries:<BR>>
<BR>> This weekend's Moscow-Pullman Daily News carried an AP article on page
13A that<BR>> made my blood run cold.<BR>> <BR>> Last February, I
attended a presentation given by Steve Wilkins (League of the<BR>> South
supporter and pastor of Auburn Avenue Church in Monroe, LA), good friend<BR>>
of local Christ Church Pastor Doug Wilson, on "The Sin of Racism." It was
an<BR>> experience I'll never forget for many reasons, but pertinent to the
article in<BR>> yesterday's paper was Wilkins' presentation of the Muslim
faith as being a<BR>> religion that was inevitably violent -- a "religion of
the sword" -- because<BR>> Muslims reject the trinity.<BR>> <BR>> Is it
not surprising, then, that according to a nationwide poll "nearly half
of<BR>> all Americans believe the U.S. government should restrict the civil
liberties of<BR>> Muslim-Americans"?<BR>> <BR>> Well, it's a shocker to
me! We're not talking about Muslim immigrants or even<BR>> illegal
aliens . . . we're talking about 44% of Americans thinking it's a good<BR>>
idea to restrict the *civil liberties* of other Americans for no reason
other<BR>> than a difference of religion!<BR>> <BR>> What wasn't
shocking to me, though, was that "that Republicans and people who<BR>>
described themselves as highly religious were more apt to support
curtailing<BR>> Muslims' civil liberties than Democrats or people who are
less religious."<BR>> <BR>> How sad this must make God . . . <BR>>
<BR>> I am truly saddened to realize that so many of my fellow Americans seem
to have<BR>> forgotten so much of what makes America a successful
democracy :-(<BR>> <BR>> For those who missed it, here's the text of
the article:<BR>> _____<BR>> "Cornell University poll finds nearly half of
all Americans support restricting<BR>> the rights of Muslim-Americans<BR>>
BY WILLIAM KATES<BR>> ASSOCIATED PRESS<BR>> <BR>> ITHACA, N.Y. - Nearly
half of all Americans believe the U.S. government should<BR>> restrict the
civil liberties of Muslim-Americans, according to a nationwide<BR>> poll.
<BR>> <BR>> The survey conducted by Cornell University also found that
Republicans and<BR>> people who described themselves as highly religious were
more apt to support<BR>> curtailing Muslims' civil liberties than Democrats
or people who are less<BR>> religious. <BR>> <BR>> Researchers also
found that respondents who paid more attention to television<BR>> news were
more likely to fear terrorist attacks and support limiting the rights<BR>> of
Muslim-Americans. <BR>> <BR>> "It's sad news. It's disturbing news. But
it's not unpredictable," said Mahdi<BR>> Bray, executive director of the
Muslim American Society. "The nation is at war,<BR>> even if it's not a
traditional war. We just have to remain vigilant and continue<BR>> to
interface." <BR>> <BR>> The survey found 44 percent favored at least some
restrictions on the civil<BR>> liberties of Muslim Americans. Forty-eight
percent said liberties should not be<BR>> restricted in any way. <BR>>
<BR>> The survey showed that 27 percent of respondents supported requiring
all<BR>> Muslim-Americans to register where they lived with the federal
government.<BR>> Twenty-two percent favored racial profiling to identify
potential terrorist<BR>> threats. And 29 percent thought undercover agents
should infiltrate Muslim civic<BR>> and volunteer organizations to keep tabs
on their activities and fund-raising. <BR>> <BR>> Cornell student
researchers questioned 715 people in the nationwide telephone<BR>> poll
conducted this fall. The margin of error was 3.6 percentage points. <BR>>
<BR>> James Shanahan, an associate professor of communications who helped
organize the<BR>> survey, said the results indicate "the need for continued
dialogue about issues<BR>> of civil liberties" in a time of war. <BR>>
<BR>> While researchers said they were not surprised by the overall level of
support<BR>> for curtailing civil liberties, they were startled by the
correlation with<BR>> religion and exposure to television news."<BR>>
_____<BR>> <BR>> It seems an especially appropriate time to remember the
powerful words of<BR>> Protestant pastor Martin Niemoeller:<BR>> "First
they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not<BR>>
speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I
was<BR>> neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I
was not a<BR>> Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there
was no one left to<BR>> speak out for me." <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Saundra
Lund<BR>> Moscow, ID<BR>> <BR>> The only thing necessary for the
triumph of evil is for good people to do<BR>> nothing.<BR>> -Edmund
Burke<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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