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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have you ever noticed that everyone whines and
complains about their Internet provider, no matter what company they
choose? Too slow, too many ads, not enough space, etc etc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And while I don't want to inhibit anyone's
heartfelt complaints, I would like to remind everyone that without FSR there is
no Vision2020.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simple equation... No FSR equals No
V2020.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>FSR donates the service and maintenance that keeps
V2020 a free, unmoderated list. FSR deserves our gratitude.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I use FSR. I am happy with their
service. I assume others are not. But it is the height of irony to
use V2020 to attack FSR.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BL</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=techsupport@fsr.com
href="mailto:techsupport@fsr.com">First Step Internet</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:51
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] V2020 Problems
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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Ted, et al,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>I may be wrong, but below is a
possible explanation of the FSR email, V 2020 problems.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>First, it is not just V 2020 but emails
from various sources and geographical locations that are sometimes delayed up
to six days. Some emails have been forever lost.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>The servers at FSR have a maximum
capacity to handle email. When that capacity is exceeded, the emails are
cached somewhere else and retrieved, if possible, when the system has enough
unused capacity to handle them. Sometimes it is not possible to retrieve
the cached emails on a timely basis or to retrieve them at all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Another problem concerns the allegations
that certain users emails are being read by certain FSR staff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>When I first signed up with FSR, the
technical support was very good and one seldom had to wait. Now, it is
hard to get connected on call to them; leaving a message sometimes leads to a
long (more than a day) wait. The last experience I had was with someone
who could not find the problem of why I could not connect to the mail server
and seemed to have no idea of how to investigate the problem. (I always
do the obvious before calling, including a cold boot just in case of an OS
foul-up). He then said it was a problem with my machine. A few
hours later without any more action on my part, the mail connection started
working again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>I am on a wireless connection.
Sometimes it works very well. Sometimes it is pathetically slow, due
probably due to FSR's insufficient bandwidth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Further, FSR is on a number of span-block
lists. This means that certain ISPs will not accept any emails from
anyone using FSR. I reported the problem yesterday after receiving
another message saying my email was blocked because FSR was considered a
spammer. The problem was acknowledged by FSR with a very short note
saying that they are working on it. It may be a problem with virus
infected machines of FSR users who are spam robots and/or real spammers.
This explanation would also explain the sluggish response at times. It
is alleged that FSR does not have the adequate hardware, software, or
technical expertise to find the spammers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>I like to support local businesses.
However, the problems above are beginning to lead me to consider finding a
more reliable, more secure, and more responsive ISP connection.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Has anyone else had these problems?
Or different explanations/solutions?</FONT></DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref"
size=4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
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<DIV>Wayne A. Fox<BR><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>PO
Box 9421<BR>Moscow, ID 83843<BR>208 882-7975</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Tbertruss@aol.com
href="mailto:Tbertruss@aol.com">Tbertruss@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] V2020 Problems
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>All:<BR><BR>It took about one minute for
my last post to post to the list. So why after six hours has my
previous post from earlier today not posted yet? Some computer God
must know.<BR><BR>Ted Moffett</FONT>
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