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<P>Dan,</P>
<P>Unless you wish otherwise, let's set aside the issue of whether or not we have the moral right to remove foreign leaders and try to 'set up democratic governments' (though I think if that's what we wish to do, that is what we as a people ought to openly discuss before setting off on such an enterprise; since the Bush Administration did not claim this was the reason, we never had such a discussion here. I doubt you would have accepted this bait-and-switch from Clinton, and I certainly would not.)</P>
<P>Do you think that our current plan, whatever that is, is succeeding in achieving your goal? </P>
<P>Do you think that we can set up a 'free' government when we take away their ability to change the economic arrangements set in place by Bremer before his departure? <BR><BR>How long will we have troops there, in your view? I will admit that I think this administration intends to leave large numbers of troops there, and therefore never had an 'exit strategy.'</P>
<P>Sunil</P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Dan Carscallen" <predator75@moscow.com>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Clearing the Air About George Bush's Military Record
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:47:10 -0700
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<DIV></DIV>>If that's your only issue, then I guess that's how you'll vote.
<DIV></DIV>>Personally, I never felt a threat of mushroom clouds, and truthfully I
<DIV></DIV>>have no problem with the removal of Saddam Hussein and setting up a
<DIV></DIV>>democratic government as the only reasons for going to Iraq.
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<DIV></DIV>>For me, there are other issues telling me who to vote for.
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<DIV></DIV>>DC
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<DIV></DIV>>-----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>>From: Tbertruss@aol.com [mailto:Tbertruss@aol.com]
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:37 AM
<DIV></DIV>>To: predator75@moscow.com; bradneuman@moscow.com; pkraut@moscow.com;
<DIV></DIV>>vision2020@moscow.com
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clearing the Air About George Bush's Military
<DIV></DIV>>Record
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<DIV></DIV>>DC et. al.
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<DIV></DIV>>So you prefer to not dwell on the "lies" or falsehoods Bush used to send
<DIV></DIV>>us to war? False scare stories about "mushroom clouds" over America due
<DIV></DIV>>to nonexistent nuclear weapons programs in Iraq? False stories about
<DIV></DIV>>biological and chemical weapons programs that Iraq weapons inspectors,
<DIV></DIV>>both Hans Blix and former marine Scott Ridder, were both telling us did
<DIV></DIV>>not exist anymore in any form that could threaten the US?
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<DIV></DIV>>I cannot fathom how Bush supporters can dismiss the glaring fault of
<DIV></DIV>>Bush presenting falsehoods to lead the nation to war: this must rank as
<DIV></DIV>>one of the most egregious errors in judgment a president can make.
<DIV></DIV>>Well, I can fathom it, but only if we postulate an irrational state of
<DIV></DIV>>mind for Bush supporters.
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<DIV></DIV>>Bush either lied to the American people, or he was so misinformed and
<DIV></DIV>>oblivious to the intel available even to the average citizen doing
<DIV></DIV>>cursory research, that either way very serious questions must be raised
<DIV></DIV>>about placing him in charge of the most powerful nation and military on
<DIV></DIV>>earth.
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<DIV></DIV>>Bush supporters must answer this critique of the Bush administration
<DIV></DIV>>before any other issue is even worth moving on to: it is critical to the
<DIV></DIV>>evaluation of the integrity of our president as he has performed his
<DIV></DIV>>duties serving the American people.
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<DIV></DIV>>Ted Moffett
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