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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Ted, Bill, et al,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>The hydrogen and oxygen for fuel cells can
come from water. Solar power can be source of energy for the electrolysis
of the water and pressurization of the gases.</FONT></DIV><FONT
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<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
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<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Bill@strand.bz
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 03, 2004 8:14
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Conserve
precious Oil</DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"><BR>Bill et. al.<BR><BR>I think you are correct
about bio-fuels as an alternative to oil. In fact, it will be difficult
for any alternative fuel to compensate for the cheap abundance of energy from
oil. Gas would need to rise over $5 a gallon to... I'm not sure at what
price for gas that alternative fuels would start to compete in the open
marketplace, but it's very high. And then the availability of the
quantity of alternative fuels needed to replace the prodigious amount of
energy from oil that we currently use is another problem, as you pointed out
with your examination of what it would take to replace oil with
canola.<BR><BR>We have heard a lot about fuel cell cars and the coming
hydrogen economy, but there is no free lunch. The hydrogen must come
from hydrocarbons (propane or...) or some other source, and this may not be as
cheap as oil is now. Fuel cells do produce energy from a given amount of
propane that is more efficient than burning the propane in an internal
combustion engine. I guess if you want to run your internal combustion
car on propane this is not so hard to do?<BR><BR>But unless there are some
break throughs in energy technology, the world will face a major economic
crisis when oil starts to run out. Using less energy per person seems
like the only practical solution. Just try and tell that to the average
American!<BR><BR>What ever happened to fusion power? Seems like this
technology is just not currently practical. If it could be made to work,
this would help solve the oil crisis, but this is a big if. So much for
the happy face technologists who think science and technology will solve our
energy problems!<BR><BR>Ted Moffett</FONT>
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