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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Sean,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Again, I make no apology for the content or
tone of my posts. Ideas have behavioral and social consequences.
Sexism, racism, tax cheating, etc. have behavioral and social consequences which
I, and perhaps the majority of this community, find unacceptable. The
cult has entered their beliefs in the market place of ideas. I
am arguing for a "No Sale." If you think that niceness alone is
going to combat toxic religious/superstitious and/or discriminatory ideas, you
only have to watch the evening news to see the folly of such an idea.
Hint: Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, the Sudan, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Excising a toxic cult is like
open heart surgery. In this particular operation my overt role thus
far has been partly like that of a diagnostician and partly like that
of the technician who cuts open the carcass so that much more skilled
surgeons can take over and do the vital, intricate,
difficult work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>We have the skilled surgeons
-- Unitarians, Quakers, Buddhists, Humanists, etc. -- in this
community who stand ready assist the oppressed in the cult, particularly the
women and children, who wish to find a safer, much, much more kind, loving,
Christ-like haven for themselves and their religious beliefs. These
skilled surgeons are quantum levels much more able to do these tasks than I (and
many of these do not agree with my role in this cultural war either). I do
the things for which training and experience in these matters has enabled
me. I make no pretense of the nobility nor the absolute correctness of my
role nor will I explain why I say the things I say except to say that most
of them are carefully thought out, crafted, and previously tested in similar
frays.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>If you are familiar with history, then you
know that strong, no bullshit language, and even intense dislike has
played vital, absolutely necessary roles in furthering humanitarian
reforms. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>I have so far failed to see posts from you
that indicate that the cult's beliefs and actions trouble you at
all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>While this subtopic of tolerance is an
interesting topic, it distracts from the main topic from which it arises:
The actions of Christ Church Cultie Paul Kimmell using the influence gained
from important positions to propagate discriminatory practices
with our tax money in order to rob the all but a few in the community of
opportunity/income/experience and to cram his hateful religious beliefs down our
throats. Perhaps you and others who find my views so
intolerant could address the specifics of that topic
also.</FONT></DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=o2design@wsu.edu href="mailto:o2design@wsu.edu">sean</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 20, 2004 2:18
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Response to
Kimmell: Part I, DiscriminatoryHiring/Contracting Practices</DIV>
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<DIV>In other words, you think it is OK to demean others publicly, to be
religiously discriminatory, and to foster division in an effort to see your
views win out? </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Informing need not rely upon hate speech (your posts sound pretty
hateful). Discussing need not be rude or spiteful. Describing
someone's stance doesn't mean using the most extreme or divisive term is
necessary or worthwhile. And disagreeing with a position or view does
not mean someone is anti- (e.g., you probably would not say you are
anti-Christian or anti-religion because you disagree, evey staunchly, with
some of it).</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Freedom of speech without conscience equals?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Avoiding taxes when I can,</DIV>
<DIV>s</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>Sean,</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>I have written extensively on
this forum and others about tolerance.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>I encourage everyone with any
view what-so-ever to express and to argue for that view. As far as
ideas go, my tolerance ends there.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>All ideas are subject to
critical evaluation and comment. That is the reason freedom of
expression is the cornerstone of an open, democratic
society.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>I doubt that you wish me to
re-express my critique of the Christ Church Cult's ideas at this
point. I call them a cult because they are. Various V 2020
posters have posted various academic, observation-based, scholarly based
tests of cult activity and pointed out how the CCC meets most of those
criteria. You can find this out for yourself if you can
Google.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>I make no apology for being
critical of a sexist, homophobic, arrogantly dishonest, anti-secular,
anti-public education, manipulative, hypocritical, tax avoiding cult.
If you find this idea demeaning, so be it.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1><BR>Wayne</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>Art Deco (Wayne
Fox)<BR></FONT><A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT
size=+1>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message -----</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:o2design@wsu.edu">sean</A></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 20, 2004 1:22 PM</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Response to Kimmell: Part I,
DiscriminatoryHiring/Contracting Practices</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Interesting information. Worth knowing more
about.</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>I wonder, however, why you, Wayne, feel the need to
demean others' religion in the process of raising concerns about unethical
practices. Is it because you are similarly guilty of
discrimination?</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>As it is you confuse the issues surrounding the alleged
practices by potentially raising outrage at not only Kimmell but
yourself. Somehow I doubt you would consider similar venomous
language to be acceptable by others in the community if it were leveled at
groups you support. Yet it seems being a liberal makes it OK to
insult others. Or is it just that those liberals who lack
self-control give a bad name to the rest?</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>If one bad apple doesn't spoil the rest, it certainly may make
the others be avoidedŠdespite their good character. I guess that
goes for apples and organizations (both liberal and
conservative).</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>s</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Verdana
size=+1><B>Preface</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>On August 27, 2004, a
pseudo-folksy column by Paul Kimmell appeared in the<I> Daily News</I>
[appended below]. This column was an apparent attempt to respond
to some of the many criticisms made of Kimmell's actions in his dual
role as Moscow Chamber of Commerce Executive Director and Latah County
Commissioner. Because Kimmell's column did not address certain
important issues and dishonestly addressed others, a multi-part response
is in the works to set the record straight.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>This first part deals with
discriminatory hiring/contracting practices – the favoring of Christ
Church Cult members/businesses in hiring and contracting practices by
the chamber and county – an issue that Kimmell did not choose to address
in his Pollyanna column.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1><B>Discriminatory
Hiring/Contracting Practices</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>As Executive Director of the
Moscow Chamber of Commerce, Kimmell hired at least five fellow Christ
Church Culties as employees. Assessing generously in his favor the
odds of fairly hiring even one cultie from all the possible applicants
in the area at 1 in 50 (with replacement), the odds of fairly hiring
five culties are about 1 in 315,000,000!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>One of the culties hired was
Kimmell's current wife, Connie. Can you also say NEPOTISM?
[More about the Kimmell/Kimmel connection at the chamber will be
forthcoming in the posts on chamber financials.]</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>A few more of the allegations
that a considerable amount of chamber money was spent in a
discriminatory manner for part-time work and contracted services are as
follows:</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>§ <FONT face=Verdana>
Hiring eight cultie children directly without any attempt to find other
children to do a special project.</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>§ <FONT face=Verdana> A
disproportionate amount of catering done by Zume, a cult member based
business housed in the NSA tenement. [Some chamber members are
also not enamored by the quality of the alleged comestibles
served.]</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>§ <FONT face=Verdana> A
disproportionate number of entertainments at chamber functions provided
by Eric Engerbretson, a cultie and cultie apologist. [According to
some chamber members, a little of Eric goes a long
way.]</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>§ <FONT face=Verdana>
The contracting of the design, programming, and maintenance of the
chamber website to inexperienced, inept amateurs from NSA for over
$22,000.</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>As county commissioner, Kimmell
recently used his influence to help install a cultie in a clerical
position in the Latah County Courthouse.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1><B>Effects of Discriminatory
Hiring/Contracting Practices</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Discrimination based on religious
preference/practice is contrary to state and federal law. This is
especially true of public institutions and those organizations like the
chamber that thrive in part because of public tax monies
received.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>There are many secondary effects
that can arise from this discriminatory misuse of public
money:</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Public agencies who have
contributed to the chamber either through dues or grants can demand that
those past contributions be returned for the entire period that the
discrimination has occurred. These agencies can use court action
to force the return of such monies, if necessary.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Further, the public agencies
themselves can be forced to return funds which were given to them under
laws and contracts prohibiting discriminatory practices by vendors
and/or other service organizations to that public
agency.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Public agencies giving money to
organizations practicing discrimination (such as the chamber has for the
last three or four years) face a loss of community goodwill. Just
losing a little goodwill can cause a public agency to lose a levy
request or lose support for a budget increase.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>I have little doubt that unless
the chamber apologizes for, stops the discriminatory practices, and
removes the individual (Kimmell) responsible for them, that the public
agencies supporting this past discrimination with public funds will
themselves be the object of some very unpleasant community wrath,
protest, and action.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1><B>As for the pathetic chamber
website</B>, chamber members have been willfully and arrogantly ripped
off. Besides its marginal graphical design and overall structural
inadequacies, important parts of the website are dysfunctional.
There is no search mechanism to find member businesses [Google provides
such programming free]. You can't even use the web browser edit
function to find a business since the business names, etc. occur in
graphic files! Hence, even if you go through the slow process of
going page by page to find a member business, you can't copy the
individual business information from the graphic page. Further, it
does not appear that simple maintenance procedures that chamber
employees could use have been created; therefore the chamber is
dependent on the NSA students to maintain the website. Needless to
say, the information on the chamber website is out of
date.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>A professional could have created
for the chamber a graphically and functionally well designed
website. Such a design would have provided chamber members with
the search ability and visibility for their businesses and organizations
they have a right to expect. The website building and cost from a
professional? Probably under $5,000!</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Instead, under Kimmell's
religious discriminatory contracting practices, inexperienced, inept
students from cult business NSA have been paid over $22,000 and the
product is marginal at best. This is con-artistry at its small
town worst!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Kimmell's discriminatory
practices also show that in addition to getting "oversight" from Christ
Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson as a Latah County Commissioner,
Kimmell's obeying orders from the Cult Master is aiding the Cult
Master's A-Religious-Kingdom-for-Myself ambitions using our tax
money.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>[Question: Do the culties
knowingly hired/contracted through these discriminatory practices, a
process of community theft, hypocritically continue to call themselves
"Christians" or have they in their heart of hearts (but not publicly)
given up such a pretense?]</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Obviously, discrimination based
on religious preference/practice is in itself grossly unfair. It
steals from everyone in the community both opportunity and possible
income. Therefore, this kind of discrimination is little more than
common theft and its perpetrator, Paul Kimmell, is little more than a
common thief. These discriminatory practices in the name of the
chamber make that organization look like a bunch of common thieves
also.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Previous posters have described
Kimmell and other some chamber board members as very "community minded"
and "nice." Kimmell may be "charming," but to describe him and his
co-conspirators using the words "nice" and "community minded" when they
are, in effect, common thieves using tax money to finance their hateful
discriminatory practices is a gross misuse of the English
language.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1><B>Silence of the Chamber
Board</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Although they have been asked
several times and by several different persons to comment on the above
described discriminatory practices, members of the board have not yet
made any public comment on this issue. [At least one member,
however, has said, "It is none of the public's
business."]</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Although the chamber board has
been silent on this issue, one influential past president of the chamber
has commented. Jon Kimberling in a series of exchanges with
myself, made these remarks, perhaps speaking for the present
chamber:</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>”Wayne - as past president of the Chamber and
someone who spent a year on City Council working with Paul, I can tell
you he is a man of great integrity. The Chamber board questioned
him about his hiring's. It is my belief that he hired the best
people for the job - some happened to be associated with the church.
I don't know about you but I have a tendency to associate myself
with people who have similar values. Is that so wrong?
..."</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>"Whatever the math, there is still every
possibility that the Chamber went through a thorough process in each
hiring and that the best candidate was chosen.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>When I said: "I have a tendency to associate
myself with people who have similar values," Is that so wrong? I
should have continued and explained that I believe Paul networked with
local business people, church members and anyone else he knows to
advertise the jobs. It was certainly no secret at the Chamber and
we were all encouraged to get the word out. I don't deny the
appearance of favoritism..."</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>The sentence comparing Jon
Kimberling's practices to Paul Kimmell's practices: "I have a
tendency to associate myself with people who have similar values.
Is that so wrong?" perhaps explains in part why the chamber has ignored
not only state and federal law but the rights and reasonable
expectations of everyone in the community in their hiring/contracting
practices.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana
size=+1><B>Solution</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>There is a simple solution that
any prudent business person would pursue when faced with the problems
described above.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>1.</FONT><FONT
size=+1> <SPAN></SPAN> <FONT
face=Verdana> Apologize to the community which provides its funding for
past missteps, and as far as legally and fairly possible, correct
them.</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>2.</FONT><FONT
size=+1> <SPAN></SPAN> <FONT
face=Verdana> Design, write, and scrupulously follow procedures which
provide for advertising, screening, and hiring/contracting such that all
of the qualified candidates in our community have an equal chance of
being considered and hired for any chamber position or contracted
service.</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>3.</FONT><FONT
size=+1> <SPAN></SPAN> <FONT
face=Verdana> Immediately dismiss Paul Kimmell as executive
director. His open, arrogant violation of state and federal law
and his cause of the community loss of respect for and confidence in the
chamber by discriminatory practices – stealing opportunity and income
from all of us – and forcing his religion down our throats and using our
tax money in the process, are grounds, in and of themselves, for instant
dismissal.</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>If the chamber board refuses with
the stubbornness and community insensitivity they have so far exhibited
to do these three simple steps, they will certainly be surprised at the
outrage and action that will pour forth from insulted and concerned
members of the community.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>/s/ Wayne A.
Fox</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Wayne A.
Fox</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>1009 Karen
Lane</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>P.O. Box
9421</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Moscow, ID
83843</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>(208)
882-7975</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=+1>waf@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>______________________________</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>From The<I> Daily
News</I></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>______________________________</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1><B>COLUMN: Trying to live peaceable lives in
Moscow</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1><I>Paul J. Kimmell</I></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>As a child, I would wander through
Philadelphia staring at the Liberty Bell and through Independence Hall
not knowing what that "experiment in liberty" was all about or that the
men who signed the Declaration of Independence had risked their lives,
fortunes, honor, and reputations for a very risky
proposition.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>During my years of public service, I've come
to realize the great amount of scrutiny that one in such a position is
under. Much has been written of my dual roles of late, both as a Latah
County commissioner and as executive director of the Moscow Chamber of
Commerce.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>Unlike some in the media and in the community,
I am accountable to all of you in one form or another. For the record, I
wish to respond to some of these recent attacks on my character and the
organizations I work for.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>First of all, I want to assure those of you
involved in the chamber of commerce our financial situation is not grim
but in fact fairly healthy. In the 3 1/2 years I have been with the
organization, our bottom line has improved steadily. While some of our
numbers have been taken out of context, it is difficult to explain them
without looking at them as a whole and in one setting, which is what our
Executive/Finance Committee does every month. They have realized areas
that needed to be fine-tuned, and have provided great direction to our
outside bookkeeper, making sure each account is properly
categorized.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>During this process, some items have needed to
be moved from the Chamber Foundation to the Chamber - again, per the
Executive/Finance Committee. That is what some of these numbers that
have been discussed reflect. This committee is well aware of the
Foundation's and the Chamber's status - none of these decisions have
been made without their direction, contrary to what some have implied.
This same volunteer-based committee and Chamber Board continue to
provide this important oversight while making suggestions as to how we
provide our membership and the community with quality services. This is
a group of small-business owners dedicated to improving and protecting
Moscow's quality of life and business.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>I am also very proud of our chamber staff and
the tremendous amount of work they produce on behalf of Moscow and its
businesses. Like many of you, they're overworked and underpaid, but I
appreciate how well they represent this community when the phone rings
or a visitor stops in for travel information.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>As the community's "front door," the chamber
is often the first impression someone has of Moscow. We take this
responsibility seriously and we make sure it is a warm and inviting one.
We operate on a fairly small budget and we rely on the great generosity
of our business community to help us provide these
services.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>Can we do better?
Absolutely.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>I'm often reminded just how fortunate we are
to live in a place where crime is low, the air is clean and the culture
is abundant.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>I am also very aware of the importance in
protecting these assets, our farms and farmlands, our forests and lumber
mills, our water and other resources, our businesses and institutions
and, most importantly, our people and our community's rich
heritage.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>Moscow is a great community full of genuine,
caring and active citizens. I am thankful that I live in a country where
I have not needed to worry about liberty or freedom, that the past and
present sacrifices of those in the armed forces protect
us.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>As of late, however, there has been a small
but loud group of displeased persons who claim tolerance, yet they are
showing how intolerant they are of other religious and/or moral
views.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>It's important for me, and others, to keep in
mind the majority of us are trying to live in an area that we are
convinced is one of the best places on Earth to live and raise our
families.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>I am concerned some have grown suspicious of
others in our community and harsh words have been expressed. Accusations
have been made about one another and those who have control of the
"public square."</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>Moscow is far too good a town for this kind of
behavior to continue. Our founding fathers would have expected more, and
so should we.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>* Paul J. Kimmell is executive director of the
Moscow Chamber of Commerce and a Latah County
commissioner.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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services made available by First Step Internet,<BR> serving the
communities of the Palouse since
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<BLOCKQUOTE><TT>--</TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks,<BR>s<BR><BR><BR>
* * * * * * * *<BR> Sean
Michael<BR> .dwg<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><X-SIGSEP><PRE>--
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<DIV>Thanks,<BR>s<BR><BR><BR> * * *
* * * * *<BR> Sean
Michael<BR> .dwg</DIV>
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communities of the Palouse since 1994.
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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=o2design@wsu.edu href="mailto:o2design@wsu.edu">sean</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 20, 2004 2:18
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Response to
Kimmell: Part I, DiscriminatoryHiring/Contracting Practices</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In other words, you think it is OK to demean others publicly, to be
religiously discriminatory, and to foster division in an effort to see your
views win out? </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Informing need not rely upon hate speech (your posts sound pretty
hateful). Discussing need not be rude or spiteful. Describing
someone's stance doesn't mean using the most extreme or divisive term is
necessary or worthwhile. And disagreeing with a position or view does
not mean someone is anti- (e.g., you probably would not say you are
anti-Christian or anti-religion because you disagree, evey staunchly, with
some of it).</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Freedom of speech without conscience equals?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Avoiding taxes when I can,</DIV>
<DIV>s</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>Sean,</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>I have written extensively on
this forum and others about tolerance.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>I encourage everyone with any
view what-so-ever to express and to argue for that view. As far as
ideas go, my tolerance ends there.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>All ideas are subject to
critical evaluation and comment. That is the reason freedom of
expression is the cornerstone of an open, democratic
society.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>I doubt that you wish me to
re-express my critique of the Christ Church Cult's ideas at this
point. I call them a cult because they are. Various V 2020
posters have posted various academic, observation-based, scholarly based
tests of cult activity and pointed out how the CCC meets most of those
criteria. You can find this out for yourself if you can
Google.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>I make no apology for being
critical of a sexist, homophobic, arrogantly dishonest, anti-secular,
anti-public education, manipulative, hypocritical, tax avoiding cult.
If you find this idea demeaning, so be it.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1><BR>Wayne</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=+1>Art Deco (Wayne
Fox)<BR></FONT><A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT
size=+1>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message -----</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:o2design@wsu.edu">sean</A></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 20, 2004 1:22 PM</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Response to Kimmell: Part I,
DiscriminatoryHiring/Contracting Practices</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Interesting information. Worth knowing more
about.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>I wonder, however, why you, Wayne, feel the need to
demean others' religion in the process of raising concerns about unethical
practices. Is it because you are similarly guilty of
discrimination?</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>As it is you confuse the issues surrounding the alleged
practices by potentially raising outrage at not only Kimmell but
yourself. Somehow I doubt you would consider similar venomous
language to be acceptable by others in the community if it were leveled at
groups you support. Yet it seems being a liberal makes it OK to
insult others. Or is it just that those liberals who lack
self-control give a bad name to the rest?</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>If one bad apple doesn't spoil the rest, it certainly may make
the others be avoidedŠdespite their good character. I guess that
goes for apples and organizations (both liberal and
conservative).</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>s</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Verdana
size=+1><B>Preface</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>On August 27, 2004, a
pseudo-folksy column by Paul Kimmell appeared in the<I> Daily News</I>
[appended below]. This column was an apparent attempt to respond
to some of the many criticisms made of Kimmell's actions in his dual
role as Moscow Chamber of Commerce Executive Director and Latah County
Commissioner. Because Kimmell's column did not address certain
important issues and dishonestly addressed others, a multi-part response
is in the works to set the record straight.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>This first part deals with
discriminatory hiring/contracting practices – the favoring of Christ
Church Cult members/businesses in hiring and contracting practices by
the chamber and county – an issue that Kimmell did not choose to address
in his Pollyanna column.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1><B>Discriminatory
Hiring/Contracting Practices</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>As Executive Director of the
Moscow Chamber of Commerce, Kimmell hired at least five fellow Christ
Church Culties as employees. Assessing generously in his favor the
odds of fairly hiring even one cultie from all the possible applicants
in the area at 1 in 50 (with replacement), the odds of fairly hiring
five culties are about 1 in 315,000,000!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>One of the culties hired was
Kimmell's current wife, Connie. Can you also say NEPOTISM?
[More about the Kimmell/Kimmel connection at the chamber will be
forthcoming in the posts on chamber financials.]</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>A few more of the allegations
that a considerable amount of chamber money was spent in a
discriminatory manner for part-time work and contracted services are as
follows:</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>§ <FONT face=Verdana>
Hiring eight cultie children directly without any attempt to find other
children to do a special project.</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>§ <FONT face=Verdana> A
disproportionate amount of catering done by Zume, a cult member based
business housed in the NSA tenement. [Some chamber members are
also not enamored by the quality of the alleged comestibles
served.]</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>§ <FONT face=Verdana> A
disproportionate number of entertainments at chamber functions provided
by Eric Engerbretson, a cultie and cultie apologist. [According to
some chamber members, a little of Eric goes a long
way.]</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>§ <FONT face=Verdana>
The contracting of the design, programming, and maintenance of the
chamber website to inexperienced, inept amateurs from NSA for over
$22,000.</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>As county commissioner, Kimmell
recently used his influence to help install a cultie in a clerical
position in the Latah County Courthouse.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1><B>Effects of Discriminatory
Hiring/Contracting Practices</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Discrimination based on religious
preference/practice is contrary to state and federal law. This is
especially true of public institutions and those organizations like the
chamber that thrive in part because of public tax monies
received.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>There are many secondary effects
that can arise from this discriminatory misuse of public
money:</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Public agencies who have
contributed to the chamber either through dues or grants can demand that
those past contributions be returned for the entire period that the
discrimination has occurred. These agencies can use court action
to force the return of such monies, if necessary.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Further, the public agencies
themselves can be forced to return funds which were given to them under
laws and contracts prohibiting discriminatory practices by vendors
and/or other service organizations to that public
agency.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Public agencies giving money to
organizations practicing discrimination (such as the chamber has for the
last three or four years) face a loss of community goodwill. Just
losing a little goodwill can cause a public agency to lose a levy
request or lose support for a budget increase.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>I have little doubt that unless
the chamber apologizes for, stops the discriminatory practices, and
removes the individual (Kimmell) responsible for them, that the public
agencies supporting this past discrimination with public funds will
themselves be the object of some very unpleasant community wrath,
protest, and action.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1><B>As for the pathetic chamber
website</B>, chamber members have been willfully and arrogantly ripped
off. Besides its marginal graphical design and overall structural
inadequacies, important parts of the website are dysfunctional.
There is no search mechanism to find member businesses [Google provides
such programming free]. You can't even use the web browser edit
function to find a business since the business names, etc. occur in
graphic files! Hence, even if you go through the slow process of
going page by page to find a member business, you can't copy the
individual business information from the graphic page. Further, it
does not appear that simple maintenance procedures that chamber
employees could use have been created; therefore the chamber is
dependent on the NSA students to maintain the website. Needless to
say, the information on the chamber website is out of
date.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>A professional could have created
for the chamber a graphically and functionally well designed
website. Such a design would have provided chamber members with
the search ability and visibility for their businesses and organizations
they have a right to expect. The website building and cost from a
professional? Probably under $5,000!</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Instead, under Kimmell's
religious discriminatory contracting practices, inexperienced, inept
students from cult business NSA have been paid over $22,000 and the
product is marginal at best. This is con-artistry at its small
town worst!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Kimmell's discriminatory
practices also show that in addition to getting "oversight" from Christ
Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson as a Latah County Commissioner,
Kimmell's obeying orders from the Cult Master is aiding the Cult
Master's A-Religious-Kingdom-for-Myself ambitions using our tax
money.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>[Question: Do the culties
knowingly hired/contracted through these discriminatory practices, a
process of community theft, hypocritically continue to call themselves
"Christians" or have they in their heart of hearts (but not publicly)
given up such a pretense?]</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Obviously, discrimination based
on religious preference/practice is in itself grossly unfair. It
steals from everyone in the community both opportunity and possible
income. Therefore, this kind of discrimination is little more than
common theft and its perpetrator, Paul Kimmell, is little more than a
common thief. These discriminatory practices in the name of the
chamber make that organization look like a bunch of common thieves
also.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Previous posters have described
Kimmell and other some chamber board members as very "community minded"
and "nice." Kimmell may be "charming," but to describe him and his
co-conspirators using the words "nice" and "community minded" when they
are, in effect, common thieves using tax money to finance their hateful
discriminatory practices is a gross misuse of the English
language.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1><B>Silence of the Chamber
Board</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Although they have been asked
several times and by several different persons to comment on the above
described discriminatory practices, members of the board have not yet
made any public comment on this issue. [At least one member,
however, has said, "It is none of the public's
business."]</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Although the chamber board has
been silent on this issue, one influential past president of the chamber
has commented. Jon Kimberling in a series of exchanges with
myself, made these remarks, perhaps speaking for the present
chamber:</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>”Wayne - as past president of the Chamber and
someone who spent a year on City Council working with Paul, I can tell
you he is a man of great integrity. The Chamber board questioned
him about his hiring's. It is my belief that he hired the best
people for the job - some happened to be associated with the church.
I don't know about you but I have a tendency to associate myself
with people who have similar values. Is that so wrong?
..."</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>"Whatever the math, there is still every
possibility that the Chamber went through a thorough process in each
hiring and that the best candidate was chosen.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>When I said: "I have a tendency to associate
myself with people who have similar values," Is that so wrong? I
should have continued and explained that I believe Paul networked with
local business people, church members and anyone else he knows to
advertise the jobs. It was certainly no secret at the Chamber and
we were all encouraged to get the word out. I don't deny the
appearance of favoritism..."</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>The sentence comparing Jon
Kimberling's practices to Paul Kimmell's practices: "I have a
tendency to associate myself with people who have similar values.
Is that so wrong?" perhaps explains in part why the chamber has ignored
not only state and federal law but the rights and reasonable
expectations of everyone in the community in their hiring/contracting
practices.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana
size=+1><B>Solution</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>There is a simple solution that
any prudent business person would pursue when faced with the problems
described above.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>1.</FONT><FONT
size=+1> <SPAN></SPAN> <FONT
face=Verdana> Apologize to the community which provides its funding for
past missteps, and as far as legally and fairly possible, correct
them.</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>2.</FONT><FONT
size=+1> <SPAN></SPAN> <FONT
face=Verdana> Design, write, and scrupulously follow procedures which
provide for advertising, screening, and hiring/contracting such that all
of the qualified candidates in our community have an equal chance of
being considered and hired for any chamber position or contracted
service.</FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>3.</FONT><FONT
size=+1> <SPAN></SPAN> <FONT
face=Verdana> Immediately dismiss Paul Kimmell as executive
director. His open, arrogant violation of state and federal law
and his cause of the community loss of respect for and confidence in the
chamber by discriminatory practices – stealing opportunity and income
from all of us – and forcing his religion down our throats and using our
tax money in the process, are grounds, in and of themselves, for instant
dismissal.</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>If the chamber board refuses with
the stubbornness and community insensitivity they have so far exhibited
to do these three simple steps, they will certainly be surprised at the
outrage and action that will pour forth from insulted and concerned
members of the community.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>/s/ Wayne A.
Fox</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Wayne A.
Fox</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>1009 Karen
Lane</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>P.O. Box
9421</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>Moscow, ID
83843</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Verdana size=+1>(208)
882-7975</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=+1>waf@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>______________________________</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>From The<I> Daily
News</I></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
size=+1>______________________________</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1><B>COLUMN: Trying to live peaceable lives in
Moscow</B></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1><I>Paul J. Kimmell</I></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>As a child, I would wander through
Philadelphia staring at the Liberty Bell and through Independence Hall
not knowing what that "experiment in liberty" was all about or that the
men who signed the Declaration of Independence had risked their lives,
fortunes, honor, and reputations for a very risky
proposition.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>During my years of public service, I've come
to realize the great amount of scrutiny that one in such a position is
under. Much has been written of my dual roles of late, both as a Latah
County commissioner and as executive director of the Moscow Chamber of
Commerce.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>Unlike some in the media and in the community,
I am accountable to all of you in one form or another. For the record, I
wish to respond to some of these recent attacks on my character and the
organizations I work for.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>First of all, I want to assure those of you
involved in the chamber of commerce our financial situation is not grim
but in fact fairly healthy. In the 3 1/2 years I have been with the
organization, our bottom line has improved steadily. While some of our
numbers have been taken out of context, it is difficult to explain them
without looking at them as a whole and in one setting, which is what our
Executive/Finance Committee does every month. They have realized areas
that needed to be fine-tuned, and have provided great direction to our
outside bookkeeper, making sure each account is properly
categorized.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>During this process, some items have needed to
be moved from the Chamber Foundation to the Chamber - again, per the
Executive/Finance Committee. That is what some of these numbers that
have been discussed reflect. This committee is well aware of the
Foundation's and the Chamber's status - none of these decisions have
been made without their direction, contrary to what some have implied.
This same volunteer-based committee and Chamber Board continue to
provide this important oversight while making suggestions as to how we
provide our membership and the community with quality services. This is
a group of small-business owners dedicated to improving and protecting
Moscow's quality of life and business.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>I am also very proud of our chamber staff and
the tremendous amount of work they produce on behalf of Moscow and its
businesses. Like many of you, they're overworked and underpaid, but I
appreciate how well they represent this community when the phone rings
or a visitor stops in for travel information.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>As the community's "front door," the chamber
is often the first impression someone has of Moscow. We take this
responsibility seriously and we make sure it is a warm and inviting one.
We operate on a fairly small budget and we rely on the great generosity
of our business community to help us provide these
services.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>Can we do better?
Absolutely.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>I'm often reminded just how fortunate we are
to live in a place where crime is low, the air is clean and the culture
is abundant.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>I am also very aware of the importance in
protecting these assets, our farms and farmlands, our forests and lumber
mills, our water and other resources, our businesses and institutions
and, most importantly, our people and our community's rich
heritage.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>Moscow is a great community full of genuine,
caring and active citizens. I am thankful that I live in a country where
I have not needed to worry about liberty or freedom, that the past and
present sacrifices of those in the armed forces protect
us.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>As of late, however, there has been a small
but loud group of displeased persons who claim tolerance, yet they are
showing how intolerant they are of other religious and/or moral
views.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>It's important for me, and others, to keep in
mind the majority of us are trying to live in an area that we are
convinced is one of the best places on Earth to live and raise our
families.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>I am concerned some have grown suspicious of
others in our community and harsh words have been expressed. Accusations
have been made about one another and those who have control of the
"public square."</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>Moscow is far too good a town for this kind of
behavior to continue. Our founding fathers would have expected more, and
so should we.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=+1>* Paul J. Kimmell is executive director of the
Moscow Chamber of Commerce and a Latah County
commissioner.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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