[Vision2020] Whose bombs are they?

Saundra Lund v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
Fri Oct 26 10:55:32 PDT 2018


What a wonderful - and timely - musical interlude, Ted!

Saundra


On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, at 10:11 PM, Ted Moffett wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYAYn7pyues
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> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
> 
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:09 AM Saundra Lund
> <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:>> __
>> ROTFLOL!  Because your juvenile name-calling *is* productive public
>> discourse?  Nope -- you are clearly & gleefully part of the problem.
>> What a surprise - not.>> 
>> But, hey -- you keep right on focusing on the mote in someone else's
>> eye rather than the beam in your own -- that's what you're good at.>> 
>> And, for the rest of us on Planet Earth & not in Alternative Fact
>> fantasy land, we'll continue to recognize that words have power, and
>> that the vile rhetoric & nearly constant lies by this hyper-partisan
>> POTUS are destructive & represent a daily new low for America.>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, at 10:23 AM, g crabtree wrote:
>>> And remarks made by Spartacus Booker COULD have inspired an envelope
>>> of poison being sent to Susan Collins among others but,>>> you don't know and I don't know. What is rather obvious is that to
>>> point partisan fingers is simply an excuse to climb aboard your own>>> personal political hobby horse and take a vanity lap for the
>>> admiration of the like minded. Very satisfying to the ego of the
>>> equestrian I'm>>> sure but, productive public discourse it is not.
>>> 
>>> g
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:05 PM Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:>>>> Motivation can be inspired by specific focus on people or
>>>> institutions targeted for hatred.>>>> 
>>>> This is rather obvious, and a very important reason for leaders in
>>>> politics, media or business to not inspire>>>> hatred for specific individuals or institutions in public comments>>>> 
>>>> CNN was a target of one of the mail bombs, and the following
>>>> comments from President Trump could have>>>> been an inspiration:
>>>> 
>>>> President Trump labels CNN "fake news:"
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/11/trump-cnn-press-conference/96447880/>>>> Trump to CNN: ‘You are fake news’
>>>> Donovan Slack[1], USA TODAY Published 1:06 p.m. ET Jan. 11, 2017
>>>> 
>>>> President Trump calls media "enemy of the people:"
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/business/trump-calls-the-news-media-the-enemy-of-the-people.html>>>> Trump Calls the News Media the ‘Enemy of the American People’
>>>> By Michael M. Grynbaum[2]


>>>>  * Feb. 17, 2017
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>>>> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 1:52 PM g crabtree <direoutcome at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:>>>>> Who incited a lunatic to try and murder a Republican softball
>>>>> team?>>>>> 
>>>>> Who incited a wack job to attack Rand Paul?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Crazy is its own motivation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> g
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:36 PM rhayes at frontier.com
>>>>> <rhayes at frontier.com> wrote:>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wonder who could have incited this act against Clinton, Obama,
>>>>>> Soros, and CNN?>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On ‎Wednesday‎, ‎October‎ ‎24‎, ‎2018‎ ‎12‎:‎00‎:‎21‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT,
>>>>>> vision2020-request at moscow.com <vision2020-request at moscow.com>
>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    1. Explosive Devices Found in Mail Sent to Hillary    Clinton
>>>>>>       and>>>>>>       Obama (Tom Hansen)
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 07:10:16 -0700
>>>>>> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>>>> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Explosive Devices Found in Mail Sent to
>>>>>> Hillary>>>>>>     Clinton and Obama
>>>>>> Message-ID: <620CA0DD-D36D-4EFC-B089-EDDB66529DC6 at moscow.com>
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Courtesy of the New York Times at:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ???????????????
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Explosive Devices Found in Mail Sent to Hillary Clinton and Obama>>>>>> Two explosive devices were found in mail sent to the offices of
>>>>>> former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State
>>>>>> Hillary Clinton, the Secret Service said Wednesday.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The devices were similar to one found on Monday at the home of
>>>>>> the billionaire philanthropist George Soros, two law enforcement
>>>>>> officials said.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In a statement, the Secret Service said it ?has intercepted two
>>>>>> suspicious packages addressed to Secret Service protectees,? who
>>>>>> were identified as Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The device addressed to Mrs. Clinton in Westchester County was
>>>>>> found late on Tuesday by a Secret Service employee who screens
>>>>>> mail for her office, the statement said. The package addressed to
>>>>>> Mr. Obama was intercepted by Secret Service personnel in
>>>>>> Washington, D.C. early on Wednesday.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?The packages were immediately identified during routine mail
>>>>>> screening procedures as potential explosive devices and were
>>>>>> appropriately handled as such,? the statement said. ?The
>>>>>> protectees did not receive the packages nor were they at risk of
>>>>>> receiving them.?>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The statement said the agency had ?initiated a full scope
>>>>>> criminal investigation that will leverage all available federal,
>>>>>> state, and local resources to determine the source of the
>>>>>> packages and identify those responsible.?>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mr. Soros?s home is in a suburb north of New York City. That
>>>>>> device was constructed from a length of pipe about six inches
>>>>>> long filled with explosive powder, and it was ?proactively
>>>>>> detonated? by bomb squad technicians, according to one of the
>>>>>> officials, all of whom were briefed on the investigation.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The motive of the would-be Soros bomber or bombers remained
>>>>>> unclear, one of the officials said, adding that there had not yet
>>>>>> been any claim of responsibility.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mr. Soros, who made his fortune in finance and is now a full-time
>>>>>> philanthropist and political activist, is often a subject of the
>>>>>> ire of right-wing groups. In recent days, some have falsely
>>>>>> speculated that he funded a caravan of migrants moving north in
>>>>>> Mexico.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is unclear where exactly the package addressed to Mrs. Clinton
>>>>>> was sent. The Clintons and his wife have a home in Chappaqua, a
>>>>>> suburb of New York City. They bought their 11-room Dutch Colonial
>>>>>> home in the affluent enclave in 1999 for $1.7 million as Mr.
>>>>>> Clinton ended his tenure in the White House. The decision to
>>>>>> settle in Westchester County came as Mrs. Clinton was preparing
>>>>>> to run for Senate from New York.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ???????????????
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>>>>>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
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Links:

  1. http://www.usatoday.com/staff/3975/donovan-slack/
  2. http://www.nytimes.com/by/michael-m-grynbaum
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