[Vision2020] Whose bombs are they?

Saundra Lund v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
Thu Oct 25 11:09:13 PDT 2018


ROTFLOL!  Because your juvenile name-calling *is* productive public
discourse?  Nope -- you are clearly & gleefully part of the problem.
What a surprise - not.
But, hey -- you keep right on focusing on the mote in someone else's eye
rather than the beam in your own -- that's what you're good at.
And, for the rest of us on Planet Earth & not in Alternative Fact
fantasy land, we'll continue to recognize that words have power, and
that the vile rhetoric & nearly constant lies by this hyper-partisan
POTUS are destructive & represent a daily new low for America.

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, at 10:23 AM, g crabtree wrote:
> And remarks made by Spartacus Booker COULD have inspired an envelope
> of poison being sent to Susan Collins among others but,> you don't know and I don't know. What is rather obvious is that to
> point partisan fingers is simply an excuse to climb aboard your own> personal political hobby horse and take a vanity lap for the
> admiration of the like minded. Very satisfying to the ego of the
> equestrian I'm> sure but, productive public discourse it is not.
> 
> g
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:05 PM Ted Moffett
> <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:>> Motivation can be inspired by specific focus on people or
>> institutions targeted for hatred.>> 
>> This is rather obvious, and a very important reason for leaders in
>> politics, media or business to not inspire>> hatred for specific individuals or institutions in public comments
>> 
>> CNN was a target of one of the mail bombs, and the following comments
>> from President Trump could have>> been an inspiration:
>> 
>> President Trump labels CNN "fake news:"
>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/11/trump-cnn-press-conference/96447880/>> Trump to CNN: ‘You are fake news’
>> Donovan Slack[1], USA TODAY Published 1:06 p.m. ET Jan. 11, 2017
>> 
>> President Trump calls media "enemy of the people:"
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/business/trump-calls-the-news-media-the-enemy-of-the-people.html>> Trump Calls the News Media the ‘Enemy of the American People’
>> By Michael M. Grynbaum[2]


>>  * Feb. 17, 2017
>> ---------------------------------------
>> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 1:52 PM g crabtree
>> <direoutcome at gmail.com> wrote:>>> Who incited a lunatic to try and murder a Republican softball team?>>> 
>>> Who incited a wack job to attack Rand Paul?
>>> 
>>> Crazy is its own motivation.
>>> 
>>> g
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:36 PM rhayes at frontier.com
>>> <rhayes at frontier.com> wrote:>>  
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder who could have incited this act against Clinton, Obama,
>>>> Soros, and CNN?>>>> 
>>>> On ‎Wednesday‎, ‎October‎ ‎24‎, ‎2018‎ ‎12‎:‎00‎:‎21‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT,
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>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>    1. Explosive Devices Found in Mail Sent to Hillary    Clinton
>>>>       and>>>>       Obama (Tom Hansen)
>>>> 
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 07:10:16 -0700
>>>> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Explosive Devices Found in Mail Sent to
>>>> Hillary>>>>     Clinton and Obama
>>>> Message-ID: <620CA0DD-D36D-4EFC-B089-EDDB66529DC6 at moscow.com>
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>>>> 
>>>> Courtesy of the New York Times at:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html>>>> 
>>>> ???????????????
>>>> 
>>>> Explosive Devices Found in Mail Sent to Hillary Clinton and Obama
>>>> Two explosive devices were found in mail sent to the offices of
>>>> former President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary
>>>> Clinton, the Secret Service said Wednesday.>>>> 
>>>> The devices were similar to one found on Monday at the home of the
>>>> billionaire philanthropist George Soros, two law enforcement
>>>> officials said.>>>> 
>>>> In a statement, the Secret Service said it ?has intercepted two
>>>> suspicious packages addressed to Secret Service protectees,? who
>>>> were identified as Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama.>>>> 
>>>> The device addressed to Mrs. Clinton in Westchester County was
>>>> found late on Tuesday by a Secret Service employee who screens mail
>>>> for her office, the statement said. The package addressed to Mr.
>>>> Obama was intercepted by Secret Service personnel in Washington,
>>>> D.C. early on Wednesday.>>>> 
>>>> ?The packages were immediately identified during routine mail
>>>> screening procedures as potential explosive devices and were
>>>> appropriately handled as such,? the statement said. ?The protectees
>>>> did not receive the packages nor were they at risk of receiving
>>>> them.?>>>> 
>>>> The statement said the agency had ?initiated a full scope criminal
>>>> investigation that will leverage all available federal, state, and
>>>> local resources to determine the source of the packages and
>>>> identify those responsible.?>>>> 
>>>> Mr. Soros?s home is in a suburb north of New York City. That device
>>>> was constructed from a length of pipe about six inches long filled
>>>> with explosive powder, and it was ?proactively detonated? by bomb
>>>> squad technicians, according to one of the officials, all of whom
>>>> were briefed on the investigation.>>>> 
>>>> The motive of the would-be Soros bomber or bombers remained
>>>> unclear, one of the officials said, adding that there had not yet
>>>> been any claim of responsibility.>>>> 
>>>> Mr. Soros, who made his fortune in finance and is now a full-time
>>>> philanthropist and political activist, is often a subject of the
>>>> ire of right-wing groups. In recent days, some have falsely
>>>> speculated that he funded a caravan of migrants moving north in
>>>> Mexico.>>>> 
>>>> It is unclear where exactly the package addressed to Mrs. Clinton
>>>> was sent. The Clintons and his wife have a home in Chappaqua, a
>>>> suburb of New York City. They bought their 11-room Dutch Colonial
>>>> home in the affluent enclave in 1999 for $1.7 million as Mr.
>>>> Clinton ended his tenure in the White House. The decision to settle
>>>> in Westchester County came as Mrs. Clinton was preparing to run for
>>>> Senate from New York.>>>> 
>>>> ???????????????
>>>> 
>>>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>>> 
>>>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>>>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>>>   
>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>> Moscow, Idaho
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Links:

  1. http://www.usatoday.com/staff/3975/donovan-slack/
  2. http://www.nytimes.com/by/michael-m-grynbaum
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