[Vision2020] Charge Women with First Degree Murder But Allow Parents to Kill Living Children?!

Saundra Lund v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
Wed Jan 11 10:41:59 PST 2017

Glad to know this anti-science, anti-public education, anti-child "retired"
Air Force officer and "retired" Moscow police officer has zero respect for
the Constitution and wants to relegate women to forced breeder status.  Hmmm
- where have I heard that before around here?  And, he'll carry four bills
this session but not a one has to do with closing the loophole that shields
from prosecution parents who neglect their children to death and causes
untold suffering on actual living breathing already born children.  


Stupid is as stupid does, and we've got a real wingnut here hell bent &
determined to do everything in his power to make sure Idaho wins the race to
the bottom.


Saundra Lund

Moscow, ID


Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.

~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.






Idaho lawmaker would charge women who have abortions with murder


By William L. Spence

Lewiston Tribune

When Moscow Sen. Dan Foreman ran for office last year, he insisted he
wouldn't play it safe in Boise, become best buddies with the lobbyists or
turn into a full-time politician.

The 63-year-old retired Air Force officer and retired Moscow police officer
said his only concern would be "doing the right thing."

"I don't care what people think of me," he said Tuesday. "I'm here (in the
Legislature) to do what I think is best for the people."

Foreman's views about what's best will be on full display when he begins
introducing legislation in the coming weeks. The freshman Republican, who
defeated three-term Sen. Dan Schmidt in November, said he'll carry four
bills this session.

The "most controversial" measure, he said, would classify abortion as
first-degree murder - for the mother, as well as the doctor who performs the
operation - except in cases where the mother's life is endangered.

"I don't want to tell a woman what to do with her body, and neither should
the government," Foreman said. "But using that same logic, how can a woman
tell her unborn child it has to die? Who represents the child?"

A Coeur d'Alene-based grassroots group, Abolish Abortion Idaho, is
circulating a ballot initiative that would charge mothers and abortion
doctors with murder, except in cases of rape, incest or when the mother's
health is in danger. However, Foreman said he isn't carrying any of his
bills at the behest of another organization.

"I'm tired of babies dying," he said. "It's time to start the fight, and
I'll be the point man. I've been through two wars and have 11 years as a
cop. I'm not thin-skinned."

Other states have previously sought to charge abortion physicians with
murder, but Foreman thinks this would be the first effort - at least since
the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court ruling - to charge the mother as well.

"It would be groundbreaking," he said. "I believe my position is supported
by the Idaho Constitution and U.S. Constitution. In fact, I believe it's
mandated. Roe v Wade was wrong."

His other bills all focus on tax relief.

One would reduce the state sales tax from 6 percent to 5 percent. The second
would provide an income tax deduction of up to $8,000 for parents who send
their children to private schools. The third deals with "foregone" property

Counties can increase property tax collections by a maximum of 3 percent per
year, not including new construction. In years where they don't collect the
full 3 percent, those "foregone" taxes are banked and can be used in future
years. Foreman's bill would allow counties to bank that taxing authority for
a maximum of one year.

Dan Chadwick, executive director of the Idaho Association of Counties, said
counties typically don't go back more than three or four years to capture
any foregone taxes.

"Counties don't tax just to tax," he said. "The idea of foregone taxes is
that they can put it into 'savings' in case they need it later. If they're
limited to (going back) one year, the incentive would be for them to tax at
the maximum level every year, even if they don't need it."

Foreman's sales tax bill would reduce Idaho's general fund revenues by $200
million to $250 million per year. Depending on how it's written, it could
also cut the amount of sales tax revenue that's returned to local
jurisdictions through revenue sharing.

"I think the mood in the state is right for a sales tax cut," he said.
"We're starting to grow government faster than the economy. If we really
want to stimulate the economy, let's leave the spending choices up to the
men and women on the street."

A $250 million reduction in general fund collections would eliminate
virtually all of the budget enhancements in Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter's fiscal
2018 budget recommendation, including the $101 million increase in public
school funding.

Citing the Idaho Freedom Foundation's proposed budget, Foreman said there's
room for a $200 million tax cut without harming education or transportation
funding. However, the foundation's budget eliminates the entire career
ladder teacher pay plan, substituting a 3 percent across-the-board pay
increase, and cuts several other education initiatives.

In his State of the State address Monday, Otter noted state tax collections
have been cut by a combined $1 billion over the course of his three terms in

"But I also understand the costs of failing to invest prudently and
sustainably in our future," he continued. "So I will not entertain anything
that undermines our commitment to meeting essential government functions. At
the top of that list are our investments in improving education and career

Senate Minority Leader Michelle Stennett, D-Ketchum, said freshmen
legislators "often come in thinking they have a mandate for their personal

Separating personal views from what constituents want "is something we all
struggle with," she said. "We also have to remember that we create laws for
the entire state, not just our region."

Spence may be contacted at bspence at lmtribune.com
<mailto:bspence at lmtribune.com>  or (208) 791-9168.

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