[Vision2020] Council Budgets 3rd Street Bridge
g crabtree
direoutcome at gmail.com
Wed Aug 9 10:27:38 PDT 2017
Rationalizing poor council decisions with over the top hyperbole since 1992?
Gary Crabtree (One t will do, use the extra to emphasize "destroy.")
45 year veteran of having things to do and places to be.
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Linda Pall <lpall at moscow.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Crabttree and Others:
>
> The Mayor and Council who approved that resolution did so with sound urban
> planning principles as well as budgetary considerations in mind. To
> destroy an existing neighborhood that is an irreplaceable attraction for
> the entire City of Moscow (see the National Register of Historic Places)
> when the REAL arterial exists that should be maximized for quick and
> effective traffic movement to Mountainview and neighborhoods to the east of
> Mountainview,, i.e., the Troy Road, State Highway 8 that has recently been
> improved and can benefit from additional highway spending, with combined
> local, state and federal monies.
>
> Did you know that more than TEN pedestrian and handicapped generators
> exist along and immediately adjacent to Third Street between Washington
> Street and Paradise Creek?
> 1. City Hall;
> 2. United Methodist Church and social facilities
> 3. The 1912 Center including numerous activities for the entire
> community, indoor and outside.
> 4. Moscow High School
> 5. Latah County Historical Society offices
> 6. The McConnell Mansion
> 7. Unitarian-Universalist Church and facilities
> 8. East City Park everyday uses
> 9. East City Park celebrations such as Renaissance Fair;
> Rendezvous in Moscow and Rendezvous for Kids; and many more events
> throughout the year.
> 10. Lena Whitmore School
> 11. Fields and path to Lena Whitmore
>
> I hope that you all will consider these issues and the communitywide
> effects that will be forever changed and require private or governmental
> expenditures to deal with the negative effects of making Third Street an
> arterial, with traffic neither begins nor terminates along Third Street
> between Washington and Paradise Creek. Consider the arguments articulated
> in the 2007 resolution before you step on the highway “spend/spend/spend”
> bandwagon. I believe if the city does not get more that a dollar of benefit
> for the dollars of governmental resources pledged, it should be rare to
> appropriate those funds, without a deep and persuasive justification of the
> benefit of such expenditures! And that certainly goes DOUBLE for those
> street projects that would result in loss of property values, safety and
> quiet enjoyment of one’s property!
>
> Ask your council member to think again. To those of you who read V2020, I
> hope you will consider these positions as you ponder how to improve
> Moscow’s internal traffic circulation, while preserving unique
> neighborhoods and student safety.
>
> All the best to each of you,
>
> Linda Pall
> 18 year veteran, Moscow City Council
> 45 year resident of Moscow
>
> *From:* g crabtree
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2017 4:37 PM
> *To:* Tom Hansen
> *Cc:* Moscow Vision 2020
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Council Budgets 3rd Street Bridge
>
> It is extremely fortunate that a resolution signed by a former mayor is
> not binding on a future, more practical, city council.
>
> g
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> I invite your attention to a ten year-old Moscow (the one in Idaho)
>> resolution.
>>
>> http://www.moscowcares.com/Our_Moscow/Third_Street_Bridge/
>> Resolution_2007_30_Third_Street_Bridge.pdf
>>
>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:56 PM, Ron Force <ronforce at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's in the 2018 budget.
>>
>> Ron Force
>> Moscow Idaho USA
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:50 PM, g crabtree <direoutcome at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent news, connecting third st. has been long over due. Any
>>> indication of when the project is to commence?
>>>
>>> g
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Ron Force <ronforce at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From today's Moscow-Pullman Daily News:
>>>>
>>>> Moscow City Council approves budget in heated hearing Some residents
>>>> angry over motor bridge line item
>>>>
>>>> - By Taylor Nadauld, Daily News Staff Writer
>>>> - Aug 8, 2017 Updated 8 min ago
>>>> - (0)
>>>> <http://dnews.com/moscow-city-council-approves-budget-in-heated-hearing/article_58361d22-7bff-11e7-a0d5-835c4d752594.html#comments>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> The Moscow City Council approved its 2018 annual budget during its
>>>> regular meeting Monday night to the annoyance and anger of several
>>>> residents who showed up to oppose a line in the budget for the construction
>>>> of a multi-modal bridge on Third Street.
>>>>
>>>> Some residents told the council the details of the $79,896,719 budget,
>>>> which includes a $10 million bond to be voted on next year, were not made
>>>> transparent enough before the Monday night meeting.
>>>>
>>>> “I think it’s a little late,” Gretchen Stewart of Citizens for a
>>>> Liveable Community told the council during the public hearing for the
>>>> budget.
>>>>
>>>> Stewart criticized the council for not including a copy of the budget
>>>> online and for holding its public budget workshop in the middle of the
>>>> summer.
>>>>
>>>> Moscow Mayor Bill Lambert said the workshop is held the same time every
>>>> year. Other council members echoed that statement.
>>>>
>>>> “This is not being sprung out of the blue,” Councilman Walter Steed
>>>> said.
>>>>
>>>> The council and public have debated for years whether the bridge, which
>>>> would cross over Paradise Creek and fully connect East Third Street, would
>>>> be restricted to pedestrians and bicyclists or include transportation of
>>>> motor vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> Of the bridge’s total cost of $595,085, $15,085 comes from outside
>>>> sources, including individual donations.
>>>>
>>>> Joann Muneta of Citizens for a Liveable Community asked that those who
>>>> donated to make the bridge restricted to pedestrian and bicyclists receive
>>>> a refund.
>>>>
>>>> Several residents argued the bridge would be unsafe, increase traffic
>>>> and congestion and decrease nearby home values.
>>>>
>>>> Members of the organization said they had a petition with more than 400
>>>> signatures opposing construction of a motor bridge.
>>>>
>>>> But Councilman Jim Boland said he believed a majority of Moscow
>>>> residents supported the bridge and he moved to approve the ordinance, which
>>>> was approved unanimously. Councilwoman Gina Taruscio said the budget, while
>>>> not perfect, is for the greater good of the community.
>>>>
>>>> Other residents thanked the council for including budgeting for the
>>>> bridge, though some criticized other line items.
>>>>
>>>> “I don’t think Moscow’s had this many people in a budget meeting in the
>>>> time I’ve been here,” Steed said.
>>>> Ron Force
>>>> Moscow Idaho USA
>>>>
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