[Vision2020] NSA housing

g crabtree direoutcome at gmail.com
Tue Apr 25 20:01:26 PDT 2017


" I have no idea, but I suspect..."

Voicing totally unsubstantiated supositions like that must make you a prime
candidate for neighbor of the year.

 Talk about "bull-pucky."

g

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:21 PM, rhayes at frontier.com <rhayes at frontier.com>
wrote:

> I live next to a house in the back yard of an NSA official  It has no
> legal address (I looked it up), yet for several years this house has been
> rented. This I know, as the mail goes into the main house address.  I
> have no idea, but I suspect there are no taxes filed either federal or
> state or city.. It is just the usual bull-pucky.
>
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>   1. Re: BOA meeting tonight (Nicholas Gier)
>   2. FW: New St. Andrews Conditional Use Permit Public    Hearing
>       (Saundra Lund)
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> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:02:21 -0700
> From: Nicholas Gier <ngier006 at gmail.com>
> To: Rose Huskey <rosejhuskey at gmail.com>
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BOA meeting tonight
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> Thanks, Rose, for doing this important work.
>
> Nick
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Rose Huskey <rosejhuskey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Once again the New Saint Andrews scheme machine is churning out the same
> > tired old ideas to recreate Oxford on the cheap (minus the authenticity
> and
> > breadth of knowledge in the celebrated British original) on Main St. in
> > Moscow.  I sent the following note to the BOA ? which I would like to
> share
> > with V2020.  If you are planning to attend the hearing go early as you
> can
> > bet the entire student body of NSA will be there (probably not wearing
> the
> > silly Harry Potter gowns however.)  For those not able to join in the
> > packed room fun apparently the hearing is being streamed at:
> > https://www.ci.moscow.id.us/Pages/tvchannel.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > *Integrity Matters*
> >
> >
> >
> > The commercial business district was never intended to be a venue for a
> > privately owned religious school to enjoy a seven hundred seat
> auditorium,
> > school offices, music practice rooms and a racket ball cum exercise area.
> >
> >
> >
> > Past behavior is often predictive of future actions. The NSA conditional
> > use permit expansion request comes with a history that should be
> considered
> > when assessing how New Saint Andrews administrators, leadership, and
> > members of the affiliated church have responded to previous Conditional
> Use
> > Permit requirements.
> >
> >
> >
> > The New Saint Andrews Admissions web page, under the subheading ?Housing?
> > http://www.nsa.edu/admissions/housing/ includes, in part, the following
> > statement:  ?Most students? board with Christian families??  Average
> costs
> > for boarding are described as at least $400.00 a month, which are
> presented
> > as less expensive than apartment living.  Twelve years ago eighty plus
> > students boarded with Christ Church families.  I have attached that 2005
> > list with addresses of boarding houses at that time.  Because the school
> > has grown and continues to encourage boarding as a first choice for
> > students, I am confident that that number has increased.
> >
> >
> >
> > The city of Moscow requires all boarding houses in Moscow to apply for
> > Conditional Use Permits.  Ten years ago the city addressed complaints
> > related to New Saint Andrews boarding houses.  The issue received a great
> > deal of publicity.  It is unlikely that any home owners who are allied
> with
> > New Saint Andrews are ignorant of the city requirement for boarding house
> > operators to obtain a conditional use permit.  In anticipation of
> tonight?s
> > hearing I stopped by the Mann Building a few weeks ago to ask how many
> > boarding house CUPs and been granted in the last ten years.  The answer
> was
> > one ? and it was unrelated to New Saint Andrews.
> >
> >
> >
> > Integrity matters, particularly when one applies to the city and by
> > extension the community for the special privilege of a conditional use
> > permit.  Why should the Board of Adjustment, or, for that matter the
> > community give any consideration to this current request when it has been
> > abundantly clear for over ten years  that the very group asking for this
> > conditional use permit is knowingly and willfully in clear violation of
> > other conditional use permit requirements.
> >
> >
> >
> > Given the history of violations of the requirement for boarding house
> > conditional use permits there is little doubt that these violations will
> > increase if NSA is permitted to more than double their enrollment.  It is
> > my hope that members of the Board of Adjustment are mindful of this
> history
> > as they consider the matter before them this evening.
> >
> >
> >
> > Fortunately, the recent purchase of a land in north-eastern Moscow offers
> > NSA a rare opportunity to visually reproduce their curriculum efforts to
> > recreate a medieval scholastic tradition.  Logos School has received a
> > conditional use permit for the site.  In addition to their plans for a K
> ?
> > 12 school, *after* securing the appropriate permission from the city
> >  they could also invite New Saint Andrews to join them. Perhaps they
> might
> > consider including student dormitories which would also mitigate their
> > tradition of non-compliant boarding houses.  New Saint Andrews now has a
> > golden opportunity to construct their very own version of a cathedral
> close
> > right here in Moscow thus finally putting to rest all their ambitious
> out-
> > of-compliance property notions in an appropriate, arguably, charming
> way.?
> >
> >
> >
> > Rose Huskey
> >
> >
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > In the note to the BOA I included a list of boarding houses from 2005
> > Christ Church directory.  I will not attach that here because if some
> home
> > owners have moved from the homes listed in the church directory I would
> not
> > want some innocent family tarred by the previous owners brush.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is also necessary to point out that since I sent the original list to
> > the city Christ Church  in 2005 Christ Church has stopped listing
> addresses
> > for NSA students ? or conceals them on-line for members access only.
> This
> > is strictly an undercover operation.  Do you suppose the revenue is
> > accurately reported to the state and federal revenue services? For
> example,
> > based on Doug Wilson?s own blog site he has four borders (which he
> > typically has had for many years and at minimally $4,000 a head he?s
> > bringing in 16 K a year. Multiply that  by church wide boarders and the
> > annual take is several hundred thousand dollars.
> >
> >
> > *?Sabbath Dinner*One of the things that makes this all go is the fact
> > that Nancy is amazing. Every week we launch the Lord?s Day at 6 pm
> Saturday
> > night. We have the two of us, three kids, their spouses, and seventeen
> > grandkids. We bring my dad over for sabbath, which makes us a cool 26.
> *In
> > the school year we have four boarders who usually join us*, which brings
> > us to 30.? from Doug Wilson?s blog: https://dougwils.com/personal/
> > dont-get-everything-done.html  [July 13, 2016]
> >
> > ?The College is a non-residential campus, meaning we provide no on-campus
> > housing.  *Most students board with local Christian families* or share
> > apartments with other NSA students. . . Costs for boarding with local
> > Christian families vary considerably, depending on the living and meal
> > arrangements. Two bedroom apartments typically rent in the $500-$600 per
> > month range, and duplexes and houses go for between $800 per month to
> > $1,200 per month. On average, full-time students should expect to pay
> about
> > $4,000 for room and board per academic year.?
> > http://www.nsa.edu/admissions/housing
> >
> >
> >
> > ?Passed new zoning rules for ?boarding houses? that do nothing to stop
> > party houses, but *removes the freedom of owner-occupied family homes
> > from showing hospitality to students?especially NSA students*?or
> > missionaries?especially Mormons, others.? https://dougwils.com/s7-
> > engaging-the-culture/no-incumbents.html [10-27/07]
> >
> >
> >
> > These holy go pious jackasses really know how to represent Christianity
> in
> > a powerfully good way, don?t they?
> >
> >
> >
> > Rosemary Huskey
> >
> >
> >
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> --
>
> A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they
> shall never sit in.
>
> -Greek proverb
>
> ?Enlightenment is man?s emergence from his self-imposed immaturity.
> Immaturity is the inability to use one?s understanding without guidance
> from another. This immaturity is self- imposed when its cause lies not in
> lack of understanding, but in lack of resolve and courage to use it without
> guidance from another. Sapere Aude! ?Have courage to use your own
> understand-ing!?that is the motto of enlightenment.
>
> --Immanuel Kant
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> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:58:58 -0700
> From: "Saundra Lund" <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
> To: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] FW: New St. Andrews Conditional Use Permit
>     Public    Hearing
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> Visionaries:
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>
> I'm sharing the "quick & dirty" comments I've emailed to the Board of
> Adjustment for the New St. Andrews Conditional Use Permit application
> hearing this evening.  I've decided I'll spare those in what might be a
> crowded room the . . . pleasure of my presence after being without running
> water since 7 AM  :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Saundra Lund
>
> Moscow, ID
>
>
>
> Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
>
> ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> From: Saundra Lund
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 3:47 PM
> To: boa at ci.moscow.id.us; rcash at ci.moscow.id.us
> Subject: New St. Andrews Conditional Use Permit Public Hearing
>
>
>
> Dear Board of Adjustment Members:
>
>
>
> I am writing to urge you to vote NO on the Conditional Use Permit (CUP)
> application submitted by New St. Andrews (NSA).
>
>
>
> First, I trust each of you has done your due diligence regarding NSA's
> embarrassing zoning history in our town and are aware of the extensive
> history of zoning violations by this entity.  Essentially, NSA was granted
> the initial CUP to avoid potential costly litigation because the City
> failed
> to notice what was going on under its nose right on Friendship Square.  Not
> only had the building already been purchased, but significant money had
> been
> "invested" in renovating the building for NSA's unpermitted use in the
> Central Business District, a bevy of activity that somehow escaped
> detection
> by the City until concerned citizens started asking questions.
>
>
>
> While I disagreed with the eventual decision to grant a CUP to NSA, I
> understood the complications of denying the (belated) CUP application and
> the black eye the City might have received from trying to shut the barn
> door
> long after the horse escaped.
>
>
>
> There are good reasons "educational institutions" are not a permitted use
> in
> our CBD and special permission in the form of a CUP is required.  It seems
> a
> matter of common sense to me that special permission would be reserved for
> those who not only meet relevant criteria standards but also for entities
> that don't have an extensive history of intentionally violating our
> community's reasonable and lawful standards.  Common sense dictates this is
> sufficient reason to deny NSA's current CUP application to further expand
> downtown.
>
>
>
> Second, I have significant concern about the wisdom of allowing a second
> CUP
> for a single special interest religious educational institution in our CBD.
> At what point will the line be drawn to keep our CBD a secular business
> district rather than a religious Main Street?  There are important lessons
> to be learned from what happened in Antelope, OR and in Leith, ND, and I
> urge this Board to take the opportunity to shut the barn door before the
> horse escapes this time.
>
>
>
> Third, I object to a second property in our CBD being removed not only from
> commercial use but also from the tax rolls for the benefit of a single
> religious educational institution.  When property is removed from the tax
> rolls, the rest of we-the-people are providing forced subsidy, and in this
> instance, we are already subsidizing this religious educational institution
> in our vital CBD.  It's flatly unfair to ask taxpayers and business owners
> to accept the removal of a second significant downtown business property
> from the tax rolls for a single religious educational institution,
> particularly for a single religious educational institution that rejects
> essential "secular" values held by the vast majority of our community.  As
> a
> community member, I'm aware that our City budget is tight enough that we
> often can't afford even simple and inexpensive projects that would benefit
> the majority of our community, and it smacks of an entitled attitude when
> we
> as taxpayers are being asked to provide a second subsidy for a single
> religious institution downtown.
>
>
>
> Finally, I am extremely concerned about the parking problems that will
> inevitably arise from allowing a second downtown location for single
> religious educational institution that's expected to more than double its
> student enrollment where parking is already scarce.  I'm not up-to-date on
> what current "parking surveys" may show, but I can speak from my personal
> experience:  parking in the area of the proposed second CUP location is
> already scarce-to-absent at some times during some days.  Further, the
> extensive work done by City staff doesn't seem to take into account the
> high
> volume parking and traffic issues a 680 seat multi-use "music performance
> space" would regularly require, which I find puzzling.  Perhaps City staff
> simply isn't aware of the other private uses the space will likely be used
> for?
>
>
>
> For instance, NSA recently co-sponsored the Grace Agenda conference.
> Because it  didn't have its own facility in which to hold events, one of
> the
> venues used was the Church of the Nazarene.  I don't know how large that
> dedicated parking lot is, but it was virtually full and there was a
> significant increase in traffic on the surrounding streets from around 8:30
> AM to 3:30 PM or so that Friday during the "women's only" seminar.  While I
> didn't see it myself, I was told the situation was the same around Trinity
> Reformed Church during the "men's only" seminar the same day.  I've been
> told by folks who attend NSA, Christ Church, and/or Trinity Reformed and
> have read in online postings that they look forward to holding many similar
> large events in the new NSA space.
>
>
>
> Because those "other" uses weren't included in NSA's CUP application, it
> seems likely City staff was unable to accurately and completely evaluate
> the
> traffic and parking impacts that would arise from approving a second CUP
> for
> NSA in the CBD.  With incomplete/inaccurate information available, I urge
> the Board to reject NSA's current CUP application.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your consideration of my concerns, and thank you
> for the hard work you are tasked with accomplishing.  I sincerely apologize
> for my lateness in submitting my concerns.  I had planned to attend the
> hearing this evening to listen, learn, and hope some or all of my concerns
> might be addressed before offering testimony.  Unfortunately, my
> neighborhood is without water today from 7 AM to 7 PM today, and while I
> was
> hopeful the work would be completed earlier, the lateness of the hour still
> without water convinces me my optimism was unrealistic.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Saundra Lund
>
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