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[Ron Force]

Not that this will convince some people, but...:
Helpfully, the Congressional Research Service gathered all of the information relevant to Cruz's case a few years ago, at the height (nadir?) of Obama birtherism. In short, the Constitution says that the president must be a natural-born citizen. "The weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born Citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including any child born 'in' the United States, the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parents who has met U.S. residency requirements," the CRS's Jack Maskell wrote. So in short: Cruz is a citizen; Cruz is not naturalized; therefore Cruz is a natural-born citizen, and in any case his mother is a citizen. You can read the CRS memo at bottom; here's a much longer and more detailed 2011 version.
 http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf
Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA 


     On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 7:33 PM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
   

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I think you've identified one of the issues. Tom's use of the term indicates he doesn't understand what 'naturalized citizen' means or else he's invented his own definition. Either way it becomes impossible to have a rational discussion.

Sunil

Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:16:37 -0700
From: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com
To: thansen at moscow.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)

Your definition of the word "naturalized" appears to differ from the meaning that the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services department uses.  To them, becoming "naturalized" is a legal process requiring (among other things) getting a green card, filing an N-400, paying almost $600, getting fingerprinted, and taking English and civics tests.  There is also an oath ceremony.

This is why people have been asking you to document your use of the term to mean "born abroad to a U.S. citizen", which is what it appears you think it means, rather than the process to become a citizen described above.

Paul

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

It has been discussed and accepted on television . . . that Ted Cruz attained dual citizenship upon birth . . . as a Canadian citizen by birthright . . . and as a "naturalized" (NOT "natural born") citizen of the United States via his mother's citizenship.  He has yet to renounce his Canadian citizenship.
JEEEESH!

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon  
On Mar 24, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:


​"This has been reviewed and accepted publicly on television."
What more need be said?
As Mr. Dredge so definitively put it, case closed!
g

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