[Vision2020] Fwd: Confederate Flag Burning Activity

Fri Jun 26 17:07:50 PDT 2015

My apologies to Chief Nickerson.

My statements were intended for other people, people who promised assistance and whimped out at the last minute.

Chief Nickerson is a treasure trove of information and guidance . . . as is Dan "Area Man" Carscallen.  My apologies if my previous statements were not addressed appropriately.  

Again my apologies and appreciation to Chief Nickerson.

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still.
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

> On Jun 26, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> One thing I learned during my twenty years in the Army . . .
> 
> "Don't tell me WHY I CAN'T.  Explain to me HOW I CAN!"
> 
> Instead of burning the three Confederate battle flags, how about shredding them.  Does anybody have access to a sizable shredder . . . like maybe Moscow Recycling?
> 
> Apparently, this is a concept totally foreign to this little corner of the world.
> 
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
> 
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>   
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
> 
> - John Lennon
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Would ANY of you fine V-Peeps know of a venue in the city . . . in the county . . . in the state where I may legally conduct a Confederate Flag Burning activity . . . free . . . or otherwise?
>> 
>> Neither raising a gay Confederate flag nor laying a Confederate flag on the ground (for stomping) accomplishes ANYTHING.
>> 
>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>> 
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>   
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>> 
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>> 
>> - John Lennon
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Brian Nickerson <BNickerson at ci.moscow.id.us>
>>> Date: June 26, 2015 at 2:33:47 PM PDT
>>> To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>>> Cc: Joe Williams <jwilliams at ci.moscow.id.us>
>>> Subject: RE: Confederate Flag Burning Activity
>>> 
>>> Tom, 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your email back. As you mentioned we are in the busy time of our year in the area and with the temperatures and dryness that we are currently experiencing we have extreme concerns for the possibility of a wildland or grass fires in the area. In addition as you might or might not be aware the City has a no burning policy with very few exceptions throughout the year and currently only allows open burning a two week period during the spring. 
>>> 
>>> At this time we are not allowing any open burning of any kind due to the conditions and the weather for any purposes. Once the conditions change any request is reviewed on a case by case basis. 
>>> 
>>> Sorry was unable to help you at this time but if I can be of any other assistance in the future please let me know. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you again for contacting us with this question. 
>>> 
>>> Brian R. Nickerson
>>> Fire Chief
>>> City of Moscow
>>> Moscow Volunteer Fire Department 
>>> 229 Pintail Ln. 
>>> Moscow, ID 83843
>>> 208-882-2831
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen at moscow.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:41 PM
>>> To: Brian Nickerson
>>> Cc: Joe Williams
>>> Subject: Re: Confederate Flag Burning Activity
>>> 
>>> Chief Nickerson -
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your response.
>>> 
>>> I realize that this is the busy part of the year for fire departments, as temperatures break 100 during the day.
>>> 
>>> Any assistance/guidance that you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> We are hoping that such an activity would be possible.
>>> 
>>> I have been tracking the three Confederate battle flags that I have purchased from Amazon mere hours before their embargo against sales of Confederate flags went into affect.  Currently they are scheduled to arrive on Monday (June 29th).  We are hoping for a date for the flag burning between July 6th and July 16th.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Brian Nickerson <BNickerson at ci.moscow.id.us> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tom, 
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry it took a day to get back to you. 
>>>> 
>>>> As you might know I am still new here and learning the processes and programs that we have had in place over the years. I will get back to you tomorrow to let you know what I find out and provide any information or guidance that I might have. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for reaching out. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Brian R. Nickerson
>>>> Fire Chief
>>>> City of Moscow
>>>> Moscow Volunteer Fire Department 
>>>> 229 Pintail Ln. 
>>>> Moscow, ID 83843
>>>> 208-882-2831
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen at moscow.com] 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:39 AM
>>>> To: Brian Nickerson
>>>> Cc: Joe Williams
>>>> Subject: Confederate Flag Burning Activity
>>>> 
>>>> Chief Nickerson and Fire Marshal Williams - 
>>>> 
>>>> In protest to the recent mass killings that took place in the AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina, by an individual personally committed to the racist, pro-slavery Confederate cause, a group of us would like to burn a Confederate Battle Flag within a public venue here in Moscow.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been informed that unusable U.S. flags here in Moscow are destroyed by fire (as they should be, once the stripes are separated from the union jack).  Could the facilities used in this activity also be used in our proposed activity?
>>>> 
>>>> What would be required of us prior to this activity?
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a public venue currently available for such activity . . . perhaps equipped with burn barrels?
>>>> 
>>>> Your guidance would be seriously and sincerely appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>> Moscow, Idaho
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