[Vision2020] House GOP relents on Department of Homeland Security

Paul Rumelhart paul.rumelhart at gmail.com
Fri Feb 27 08:36:27 PST 2015


The terrorist threats are overblown and the Department of Homeland Security
is a relic of the Patriot Act era and I'm surprised to see Democrats
fighting for it.  Politics makes for strange bedfellows, I guess.  I would
be happy to see DHS be defunded, and the TSA scaled back.

I, personally, think our individual freedoms are more important than
stopping some yahoos running off to join ISIS, no matter how boastful they
are.

Paul

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> Read the paper, Mr. Ramalingam.
>
> ---------------------------
> Brooklyn men who wanted to join ISIS had plans to shoot President Obama,
> bomb Coney Island: FBI
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/would-be-terrorists-busted-planning-join-isis-article-1.2128859
> ---------------------------
> Why is ISIS so successful at luring Westerners?
> http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/world/isis-western-draw/
> ---------------------------
>
> And so on, and so on, and so on, and . . .
>
> Just google "ISIS" paired with any name of a member of the Republican
> Party . . . prior to yesterday.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2015, at 6:59 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is this statement really true?
>
> 'As terrorist presence becomes more and more evident in the United States'
>
> I read a lot of articles about the FBI helping nutty people hatch plots,
> by providing them with weapons or materials, and then prosecuting them.
>
> Sunil
>
> ------------------------------
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 06:43:44 -0800
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] House GOP relents on Department of Homeland Security
>
> As terrorist presence becomes more and more evident in the United States,
> House Republicans kick Homeland Security down the proverbial road. . . *three
> weeks at a time*.
>
> Courtesy of today's (February 27, 2015) Spokesman-Review.
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> House GOP relents on Department of Homeland Security
>
> WASHINGTON – Sounding retreat, House Republicans agreed Thursday to push
> short-term funding to prevent a partial shutdown at the Homeland Security
> Department while leaving in place Obama administration immigration policies
> they have vowed to repeal.
>
> “The speaker’s pretty adamant that he’s not going to shut down Homeland
> Security, especially in light of the Mall of America and in light of what’s
> happened in New York,” said Rep. Dennis Ross., R-Fla., emerging from a
> closed-door strategy session with the Republican rank-and-file.
>
> He referred to a suggestion made by one terrorist group that a sympathizer
> should attack the Mall of America, an enormous shopping facility in
> Minnesota, as well as the arrests Wednesday in Brooklyn of men charged with
> plotting to help Islamic State fighters.
>
> Ross and other Republicans said legislation to fund DHS for three weeks
> would be put to a vote in the House today.
>
> Senate Democratic officials indicated they would agree to the measure, and
> predicted President Barack Obama would sign the measure, averting a partial
> shutdown of an agency with major anti-terrorism responsibilities.
>
> Outlining a second step in a revised strategy, Ross said House Republicans
> would also seek negotiations on a separate spending bill on track for
> Senate passage on Friday. It would fund the agency through the Sept. 30 end
> of the budget year while also rolling back Obama’s immigration directives.
>
> Senate rules require 60 votes to initiate formal compromise talks between
> the houses on any bill, and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said in
> advance his party would use its strength to prevent that from happening in
> the current clash.
>
> Anticipating that, some Republicans made the case inside the strategy
> session for simply conceding defeat and agreeing to a longer-term funding
> bill without conditions, according to officials who attended the session.
>
> In addition, Rep. Pete King, R-N.Y., and a former chairman of the Homeland
> Security Committee, told reporters that lawmakers should think of the
> consequences “if a bomb goes off in their district.”
>
> Without legislation signed into law by the weekend, an estimated 30,000
> Homeland Security employees would be furloughed beginning Monday. Tens of
> thousands more would be expected to work without pay.
>
> The proposal under consideration by House Republicans marked a retreat
> from their long-standing insistence that no money be approved for Homeland
> Security as long as Obama’s immigration directives remained in place. Yet
> it followed by a few days an announcement by Senate Majority Leader Mitch
> McConnell that he was moving to uncouple the two issues.
>
> Whatever the eventual outcome, it appeared Obama was closing in on a
> triumph in his latest showdown with the Republican-controlled Congress.
>
> With directives issued in 2012 and late last year, Obama largely
> eliminated the threat of deportation for more than 4 million immigrants who
> entered the country illegally, including some brought to the United States
> as youngsters by their parents.
> --------------------------------------
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
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