[Vision2020] Could this be why there is no money for Ebola?

Fri Oct 17 21:11:51 PDT 2014

Strange, I can see Ron Force's emails on my phone, but not on my desktop.
Anyway, I would like to mention that because I don't think we will have a
problem because of our resources doesn't mean that I don't give a shit
about the people dealing with this in Africa.  It just means that our fear
of ebola is overblown here in the good old USA, thanks to the media circus.

I, too, think we need to train our health care workers on this, should we
start seeing more cases in the US.  I think that we will do that, though,
and I can't foresee it getting out of control and leading to the zombie
apocalypse or anything.

Paul

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> It might be a good idea to train health care workers how to avoid getting
> ebola.  I find it unsettling that two healthcare workers have the virus
> after treating Thomas Eric Duncan.
>
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:12:31 -0700
> From: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Could this be why there is no money for Ebola?
>
>
> I think the fears over ebola, at least in the U.S., are overblown.  We
> have the resources and the infrastructure and the technology to isolate,
> quarantine, and treat victims of ebola, and to safely dispose of their
> remains if necessary.  Sure, we will have to train health care workers and
> set up some isolation wards, but we would survive it.  It's countries that
> are overwhelmingly poor or war-torn that will not fare well.  That's a much
> bigger and uglier problem.
>
> Paul
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> No.
>
> A bi-partisan commitment to endless wars and a bloated military budget is
> the reason.
>
> Sunil
>
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> From: bear at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:23:14 -0700
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Could this be why there is no money for Ebola?
>
>
>
> $39,643,352 Worth of NIH Funding That Could Have Gone to the Ebola Vaccine
>
> BY: Elizabeth Harrington
> <http://freebeacon.com/author/elizabeth-harrington/>
>
> Washington Freebeacon
>
>
> October 16, 2014 5:38 pm
>
> The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has spent more than $39 million on
> obese lesbians, origami condoms, texting drunks, and dozens of other
> projects that could have been scrapped in favor of developing an Ebola
> vaccine.
>
> “Frankly, if we had not gone through our 10-year slide in research
> support, we probably would have had a vaccine in time for this that
> would’ve gone through clinical trials and would have been ready,” said NIH
> Director Francis Collins, blaming budget cuts for his agency’s failure to
> develop a vaccine for the deadly virus.
>
> However, the *Washington Free Beacon *has uncovered $39,643,352 worth of
> NIH studies within the past several years that have gone to questionable
> research.
>
> For instance, the agency has spent $2,873,440
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-still-studying-why-lesbians-are-obese/> trying
> to figure out why lesbians are obese, and$466,642
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-wonder-why-fat-girls-cant-get-dates/> on
> why fat girls have a tough time getting dates. Another $2,075,611
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-spend-2-million-to-get-old-people-to-join-choirs/> was
> spent encouraging old people to join choirs.
>
> Millions have gone to “text message interventions,” including a study
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/nih-spent-480500-to-text-message-drunks/> where
> researchers sent texts to drunks at the bar to try to get them to stop
> drinking. The project received an additional grant this year, for a total
> of $674,590.
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8530120&icde=20687239>
>
> The NIH is also texting older African Americans with HIV ($372,460
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8460834&icde=20687239>),
> HIV and drug users in rural areas ($693,000
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8241014&icde=20687239>),
> HIV smokers ($763,519
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8515380&icde=20687239>),
> pregnant smokers ($380,145
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8436007&icde=20687239>),
> teen moms ($243,839
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8636660&icde=20672513>),
> and meth addicts ($360,113
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8650807&icde=20687239>).
> Text message interventions to try to get obese people to lose weight have
> cost $2,707,067
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/federal-dietary-guideline-committee-focused-on-population-behavior-change/>
> .
>
> The NIH’s research on obesity has led to spending $2,101,064
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-spend-2-1-million-to-develop-weight-tracking-insoles-buttons/> on
> wearable insoles and buttons that can track a person’s weight, and
> $374,670
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/government-putting-on-vegetable-puppet-shows-for-preschoolers/> to
> put on fruit and vegetable puppet shows for preschoolers.
>
> A restaurant intervention
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-spend-224250-to-change-how-kids-order-food/> to
> develop new children’s menus cost $275,227
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8635915&icde=18594720>,
> and the NIH spent$430,608
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-spent-430608-to-get-mothers-to-dance-with-their-daughters/> for
> mother-daughter dancing outreach to fight obesity.
>
> Sexual minorities have received a substantial amount from the NIH. The
> agency has now spent$105,066
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8486183&icde=19127100> following
> 16 schizophrenic LGBT Canadians around Toronto for a study
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/u-s-taxpayers-fund-52k-study-of-16-schizophrenic-lgbt-canadians/> on
> their community experiences.
>
> The total for a project on why gay men get syphilis in Peru
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/nih-spent-464272-to-find-out-why-gay-men-get-syphilis-in-peru/> is
> now $692,697
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8515276&icde=19127100> after
> receiving additional $228,425 this year. The NIH is also concerned about
> postpartum depression in “invisible sexual minority women,” with a study
> that has cost $718,770 <http://freebeacon.com/issues/the-invisible-women/>
> .
>
> Millions went to develop “origami condoms
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/taxpayers-paid-2-4-million-to-develop-origami-condoms/>,”
> in male, female, and anal versions. The inventor Danny Resnic, who received
> $2,466,482 from the NIH, has been accused of massive fraud
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/origami-con-man/> for using grant money for
> full-body plastic surgery in Costa Rica and parties at the Playboy mansion.
>
> How transwomen use Facebook is the subject of another NIH study worth
> $194,788
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-spend-194788-to-study-how-transwomen-use-facebook/>
> .
>
> The agency has also committed $5 million
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/nih-commits-5-million-to-mine-facebook-instagram-twitter-to-study-drug-abuse/> to
> “mine and analyze” social media to study American’s attitudes toward drug
> abuse, and $306,900
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8510292&icde=18022174> to
> use Twitter for surveillance on depressed people
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-studying-how-to-use-twitter-for-depression-surveillance/>
> .
>
> The NIH has also spent $15,313,372 on cessation studies
> <http://freebeacon.com/national-security/feds-spending-13m-on-anti-smoking-studies/> devoted
> to every kind of smoker imaginable. Current studies are targeted at American
> Indians
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8507172&icde=17740978>
>  ($2,899,954); Chinese and Vietnamese men
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8231376&icde=17740978>
>  ($424,875); postmenopausal women
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8417011&icde=22140741>
>  ($4,151,850); the homeless
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8717626&icde=22143598>
> ($558,576);Korean youth
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_details.cfm?aid=8552072&icde=17740978>
>  ($94,580); young schizophrenics
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8538895&icde=22143417>
>  ($397,802); Brazilian women smokers
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8705075&icde=22143460>
>  ($955,368);Latino HIV-positive smokers
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8652444&icde=22143546>($471,530);
> and the LGBT community
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8700358&icde=22140907>
> ($2,364,521).
>
> Yale University is studying how to get “Heavy Drinkers”
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8508129&icde=17740978> to
> stop smoking at a cost of $571,799. Other projects seek to use Twitter
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8505466&icde=17740978> to
> provide “social support to smokers” ($659,469), andyoga
> <http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_history.cfm?aid=8496727&icde=17740978> ($1,763,048)
> as a way to quit.
>
> An NIH project studying sighs
> <http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-spending-53282-to-study-sighs/> cost
> taxpayers $53,282.
>
> On Tuesday, Health and Human Services (HHS) had to outsource efforts at an
> Ebola vaccine to the Baltimore-based Profectus BioSciences Inc. The company
> will receive $8.6 million
> <https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=fd542040cf9104031abefa3444774e74> to
> research and test their vaccine, a fraction of NIH funding that went to the
> above projects.
>
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