[Vision2020] Oh, happy day . . .

Thu Nov 20 14:04:53 PST 2014

Addressing and mitigating is something that's not done well these days:What Is Wrong With The Keystone XL Pipeline?

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   Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA 

     On Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:18 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:

 #yiv8800922023 #yiv8800922023 --.yiv8800922023hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv8800922023 body.yiv8800922023hmmessage{font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}#yiv8800922023 Warren Buffett is on record stating "I think probably the Keystone Pipeline is a good idea for the country"  ad that he would vote 'yes' on Keystone XL.  Considering his age, wealth that he's amassed, and that his comments seemingly go against his financial interest in this particular case, it looks to me as he's being honest on this topic.

FWIW, I'd echo Buffett's comments.  If there are serious risks about the pipeline, those need to be addressed and mitigated.  If not, then we just keep the status quo.

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:49:20 -0800
To: moscowlocksmith at gmail.com; thansen at moscow.com
From: lfalen at turbonet.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh, happy day . . .

The vote was a temporary win for Obama's buddy Warren Buffet. Most of the oil is now shipped on rail lines he owns and is several times more expensive than the pipe line would be.Roger

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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh, happy day . . .
From: "Gary Crabtree" <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
Date: 11/20/14 00:00:16

 Pity the map you link to doesn't show all the other pipelines that already cross this patch of America. (including a very long stretch of the existing XL pipeline) Another nice addition would be all the roads and rail lines which carry items far more hazardous and far more likely to encounter a problem that would result in a spill.
g  
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

 https://nextgenclimate.org/keystone/keystone-xl-and-the-ogallala-aquifer-the-stakes-couldnt-be-higher/ 
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho 
"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon   
On Nov 19, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Paul Rumelhart <paul.rumelhart at gmail.com> wrote:

 How is an enclosed pipeline running from Alberta Canada to the gulf coast affecting our nation's water supply?

 I don't know what kinds of land usage deals have been made for the pipeline, so I can't really speak about the First Nation people's objections, but as far as the water problems are concerned, you are protesting in the wrong place. Protest the frakkin' frackers, not the pipeline builders. 

 Paul

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:

Of course, First Nation people & those of us who understand that protecting our water is crucial for this country's success disagree with your silliness, but that's never bothered you before & I don't expect it to bother you now  J  Saundra From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:43 AM
To: Tom Hansen
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh, happy day . . . Yes indeed, quite the victory for you the people. Canada will continue to extract from the tar sands, the product will continue across US soil via truck and rail and/or be piped to BC for tanker shipment, and the end result will still be turned into fuel for the world market. Congratulations on saving the planet. It seems to me that the biggest winner will be the folks that administer unemployment benefits, food stamps, and of course your beloved leader. g  On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
FYI, Mr. Dredge - U.S. House Bill 5682, the "Keystone XL Pipeline" bill, was sponsored by Republican Bill Cassidy, Ms. Landrieu's opponent for her Senate seat. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.05682:What we had here was a Democrat promoting a bill sponsored by a Republican, the Democrat's opponent. The result: They both lost and . . . WE THE PEOPLE WON !  Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho  "There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill." - John Lennon  
On Nov 19, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
This was largely just a game of political chess. This bill was being trumpeted by Louisiana Democrat Senator Mary Landrieu in a last ditch effort to try and demonstrate that she had enough influence over her own party to get the bill through the Senate. She failed, so she's toast and she'll lose her runoff election to Republican Bill Cassidy who sponsored the House version of the bill. Not that she necesssarily would have won the had the Senata bill been passed anyway. The Republicans will push this through in the next session when they have the majority and then Obama can veto it if he so wishes.From: moscowcares at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:26:56 -0800
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Oh, happy day . . .<FullSizeRender.jpg> http://www.tomandrodna.com/photos/Senate_Pipeline_Vote.jpg Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho   
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