[Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes magnitudes more attractive to guys
Kai Eiselein
fotopro63 at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 7 19:27:27 PST 2014
I want some of that white, straight male privilege! Where do I sign up to get it?
For every white straight male of privilege, I'd bet there are hundreds, if not thousands, of white straight males who didn't get this accident of birth into privilege of which you speak.
Pretty broad stroke of the brush there, Rosemary.
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> From: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
> To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 14:06:28 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes
> magnitudes more attractive to guys
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> Which reminds me all over again why I am so proud to have Saundra as a
> pal. She’s smart, she’s compassionate, and she lives in the real world
> that recognizes white, straight, male privilege for what it is - an
> unearned accident of birth. I don’t really admire the fellows who fit
> in that gianormous hot air balloon, and then, looking out over the rest
> of us, wonder what on earth we are talking about. After all, their
> world is pretty darned perfect and they didn’t have to lift a finger to
> make it so. A happy Barbara Bush weekend to one and all.
>
> Rose Huskey
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> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Saundra Lund
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:30 AM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes
> magnitudes more attractive to guys
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> I get your point, Paul, but my strong personal belief is that it is
> still far too early in the struggle for equal treatment by the law –
> which we still don’t have, BTW -- to ignore the huge positive impact
> there is for LGBTQ youth to have great LGBTQ role models. Having
> positive LGBTQ role models sends a strong message to our gay youth that
> they, just like their straight cohorts, don’t have to lower or curtail
> their aspirations because of their God-given sexual orientation or
> gender identity.
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> I don’t believe you or Dan or Roger are stupid enough to deny that
> LGBTQ kids and young adults still face a lot of pressure and negative
> stereotypes perpetuated by The Contemptible.
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> And, if you don’t deny that, then you cannot deny that having positive
> LGBTQ role models for our gay kids – and adults -- is anything other
> than what they deserve. Particularly Idaho’s LGBTQ youth, where our
> idiot GOP legislators still refuse to Add the Words and kids are left
> with the likes of Larry Craig as the most notorious putative gay male.
> There’s a role model for them . . . NOT!
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> Personally, I’m going to continue to offer a silent prayer of
> thanksgiving each time someone has the courage to put themselves out
> there as a positive role model for our LGBTQ community members to show
> them what’s possible.
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> There needs to be a whole lot of positivity to offset the hate still
> far too prevalent in certain segments of the least civil amongst us,
> and a failure to provide our gay kids positive role models is to do
> them a grave disservice.
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> Saundra
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> Moscow, ID
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> No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted.
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> ~ Aesop (The Lion and the Mouse)
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> From:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com>
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 8:34 AM
> To: Dan Carscallen; <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes
> magnitudes more attractive to guys
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> That's exactly what I'm trying to say. Imagine if it still made the
> news every time an interracial marriage happened. Or every time a
> minority family moved into a rich neighborhood, or every time a black
> person sat at the front of the bus.
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> If you push against something, someone is going to push back. The best
> approach, in my humble opinion, is to treat it like it was no big
> deal. Which is what it is.
>
> Paul
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> From: Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com<mailto:areaman at moscow.com>>
> To: "<vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>"
> <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes
> magnitudes more attractive to guys
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> I took Paul's point to mean that it shouldn't be a big deal to anyone:
> the advocates for and the bigots against, and those of us in between to
> whom it already isn't a big deal.
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> "That actress just came out as a lesbian!"
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> "That football player came out as gay!"
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> "Huh. Well now. What's for lunch?"
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> DC
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> On Mar 7, 2014, at 7:53, Sunil
> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com<mailto:sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
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> So you're being deliberately obtuse. You do realize that our bigots
> don't take your approach?
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> Sunil
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 16:35:43 -0800
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>
> To: lfalen at turbonet.com<mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com>;
> vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>;
> scooterd408 at hotmail.com<mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes
> magnitudes more attractive to guys
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> I'd like to echo this sentiment. It shouldn't matter. It reminds of
> the "first black female 42 year-old tuba playing astronaut with buck
> teeth" crap you'd get from NASA every time a shuttle launched. We
> shouldn't care anymore. That's the damn point.
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> Paul
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> From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com<mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com>>
> To: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>; Scott
> Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com<mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes
> magnitudes more attractive to guys
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> So what. It should not make any difference what her or the NFL football
> player's sexual orientation is. What I don't like is making a big
> production out of it.
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> Roger
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> <scooterd408 at hotmail.com<mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com>>
> To: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> Date: 03/06/14 10:32
> Subject: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes magnitudes
> more attractive to guys
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> 'Miss Kentucky Djuan Keila Trent, a 2011 Miss America contestant, has
> come out as "queer" on her personal blog, making her the first out
> lesbian contestant to have competed at a national level.'
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> http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/former-miss-america-contestant-reveals-she-s--queer---how-much-does-it-matter-191423938.html
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