[Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes magnitudes more attractive to guys

Fri Mar 7 11:29:54 PST 2014

I get your point, Paul, but my strong personal belief is that it is still
far too early in the struggle for equal treatment by the law - which we
still don't have, BTW -- to ignore the huge positive impact there is for
LGBTQ youth to have great LGBTQ role models.  Having positive LGBTQ role
models sends a strong message to our gay youth that they, just like their
straight cohorts, don't have to lower or curtail their aspirations because
of their God-given sexual orientation or gender identity.

I don't believe you or Dan or Roger are stupid enough to deny that LGBTQ
kids and young adults still face a lot of pressure and negative stereotypes
perpetuated by The Contemptible.

And, if you don't deny that, then you cannot deny that having positive LGBTQ
role models for our gay kids - and adults -- is anything other than what
they deserve.  Particularly Idaho's LGBTQ youth, where our idiot GOP
legislators still refuse to Add the Words and kids are left with the likes
of Larry Craig as the most notorious putative gay male.  There's a role
model for them . . . NOT!

Personally, I'm going to continue to offer a silent prayer of thanksgiving
each time someone has the courage to put themselves out there as a positive
role model for our LGBTQ community members to show them what's possible.

There needs to be a whole lot of positivity to offset the hate still far too
prevalent in certain segments of the least civil amongst us, and a failure
to provide our gay kids positive role models is to do them a grave
disservice.

Saundra

Moscow, ID

No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted.

~ Aesop (The Lion and the Mouse)

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 8:34 AM
To: Dan Carscallen; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes magnitudes
more attractive to guys

That's exactly what I'm trying to say.  Imagine if it still made the news
every time an interracial marriage happened.  Or every time a minority
family moved into a rich neighborhood, or every time a black person sat at
the front of the bus.

If you push against something, someone is going to push back.  The best
approach, in my humble opinion, is to treat it like it was no big deal.
Which is what it is. 

Paul

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From: Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com <mailto:areaman at moscow.com> >
To: "<vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> >"
<vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> > 
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes magnitudes
more attractive to guys

I took Paul's point to mean that it shouldn't be a big deal to anyone: the
advocates for and the bigots against, and those of us in between to whom it
already isn't a big deal. 

"That actress just came out as a lesbian!"

"That football player came out as gay!"

"Huh. Well now.  What's for lunch?"

DC

On Mar 7, 2014, at 7:53, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
<mailto:sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> > wrote:

So you're being deliberately obtuse. You do realize that our bigots don't
take your approach? 

Sunil

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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 16:35:43 -0800
From: godshatter at yahoo.com <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com> 
To: lfalen at turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com> ; vision2020 at moscow.com
<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> ; scooterd408 at hotmail.com
<mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes magnitudes
more attractive to guys

I'd like to echo this sentiment.  It shouldn't matter.  It reminds of the
"first black female 42 year-old tuba playing astronaut with buck teeth" crap
you'd get from NASA every time a shuttle launched.  We shouldn't care
anymore.  That's the damn point.

Paul

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From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com> >
To: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> >; Scott
Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com <mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes magnitudes
more attractive to guys

So what. It should not make any difference what her or the NFL football
player's sexual orientation is. What I don't like is making a big production
out of it.

Roger

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From: "Scott Dredge" <scooterd408 at hotmail.com
<mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com> >
To: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> >
Date: 03/06/14 10:32
Subject: [Vision2020] Former Miss America Contestant becomes magnitudes more
attractive to guys

'Miss Kentucky Djuan Keila Trent, a 2011 Miss America contestant, has come
out as "queer" on her personal blog, making her the first out lesbian
contestant to have competed at a national level.'

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/former-miss-america-contestant-reveals
-she-s--queer---how-much-does-it-matter-191423938.html

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