[Vision2020] The Hawkins Mall . . .

[Tom Hansen]

When you can't logically debate the topic, resort to name-calling, right Mr. Eiselein?

'Nuff said.

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com
  
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still.
But first you must learn to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon
  

> On Jan 30, 2014, at 5:40 AM, Kai Eiselein <fotopro63 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Can't stay on point, eh, Tom? You just can't believe that there is more than "your" point of view on anything can you? And when someone disagrees, what do you do? Pull out the insults.
> 
> You are nothing more than a third rate cyber bully. Here's the thing about bullies, cyber, schoolyard, or other: They are always cowards. Always.
> 
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>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Hawkins Mall . . . 
>> From: thansen at moscow.com 
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:41:42 -0800 
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com 
>> To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com 
>> 
>> I don't dance, Mr. Eiselein.  So, take your meaningless garble elsewhere. 
>> 
>> Moscow, Pullman, and Hawkins Companies played this game before . . .  
>> almost six years ago.  Nothing ever came from it, other than Walter  
>> Steed's failed, lame attempt at sharing Moscow's water rights with  
>> Hawkins Companies. 
>> 
>> Here it is 2014 and Hawkins Companies is knocking on doors again. 
>> 
>> Pullman and Whitman County have both expressed a lack of interest in  
>> renewing their agreement with Hawkins Companies (which coincidentally  
>> expires next week). 
>> 
>> In addition to shared water rights, another question surfaced six years  
>> ago.  Since the Hawkins Companies mall doesn't sufficiently benefit the  
>> community, just who does benefit?  The answer to that question is  
>> related to property values. 
>> 
>> A friend, and fellow V-Peep, visited the assessor's office in Colfax  
>> and obtained public records related to the property surrounding the  
>> mall property.  Some of the names of those property owners are very  
>> familiar here in Moscow. 
>> 
>> Hmmm 
>> 
>> Stay tuned. 
>> 
>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>> 
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>> 
>> Tom Hansen 
>> Moscow, Idaho 
>> 
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. 
>> But first you must learn to smile as you kill, 
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>> 
>> - John Lennon 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Kai Eiselein  
>> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>> wrote: 
>> 
>> Tom, 
>> 
>> How about that giant complex southeast of A&W? What about all those  
>> houses off of White Ave and Joseph St? 
>> 
>> They've all been built in the past few years. 
>> 
>> I swear, the only time you get outside is when there is something you  
>> feel the need to protest. 
>> 
>> 
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>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Hawkins Mall . . . 
>> From: thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com> 
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:57:57 -0800 
>> CC: cathy.b.porter at gmail.com<mailto:cathy.b.porter at gmail.com>;  
>> vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> 
>> To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com> 
>> 
>> Kai Eiselein inquires: 
>> 
>> "So what is the difference between paving over land for a mall and 
>> paving it over for a bunch of cookie cutter houses in a subdivision or 
>> a giant apartment complex besides the fact that I haven't heard too 
>> many people complaining about the latter?" 
>> 
>> Those possibilities might be worthy of evaluation and comparison if 
>> anybody actually sought to accomplish either one.  But, since 
>> absolutely nobody is considering "paving over land for . . . a bunch of 
>> cookie cutter houses in a subdivision or a giant apartment complex", it 
>> isn't worth the though, huh Mr. Eiselein? 
>> 
>> Mr. Eiselein goes on to suggest: 
>> 
>> "As for it being a "mega" mall, Tom needs to get real, there isn't the 
>> population base to support an extremely large mall." 
>> 
>> Alas, something Mr. Eiselein and I agree on . . . as substantiated by 
>> the infinite comings and goings of retailers from the Palouse Mall. 
>> 
>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>> 
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>> 
>> Tom Hansen 
>> Moscow, Idaho 
>> 
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. 
>> But first you must learn to smile as you kill, 
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>> 
>> - John Lennon 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Kai Eiselein 
>> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>>  
>> wrote: 
>> 
>> So what is the difference between paving over land for a mall and 
>> paving it over for a bunch of cookie cutter houses in a subdivision or 
>> a giant apartment complex besides the fact that I haven't heard too 
>> many people complaining about the latter? 
>> 
>> As for it being a "mega" mall, Tom needs to get real, there isn't the 
>> population base to support an extremely large mall. I believe there is 
>> a need for some retailers who aren't geared completely towards the 
>> under 30 crowd. 
>> 
>> Oh, and lets not forget, this will add an influx of cash into Moscow, 
>> as well. I'm sure a number of employees will be from Idaho, earning 
>> Washington wages and spending a portion of that cash here.                         
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