[Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964)

Kai Eiselein fotopro63 at hotmail.com
Fri Jan 10 07:39:52 PST 2014


That's it, Tom, when questioned, attack.

Your statements about leaving cash because it's not easily taxable were clear.

You are a sad, sad excuse of a man.

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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
> From: thansen at moscow.com 
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:22:40 -0800 
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com 
> To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com 
>  
> No, Mr. Eiselein.  I do not advocate tax evasion.  I believe in  
> EVERBODY paying their share. 
>  
> Unlike our state government, I advocate assistance to our under-paid. 
>  
> Now, how about you? 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. 
> But first you must learn to smile as you kill, 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
> On Jan 9, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Kai Eiselein  
> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>> wrote: 
>  
> So you advocate tax evasion, Tom? 
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> ________________________________ 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
> From: thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com> 
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:00:19 -0800 
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com> 
>  
> As a matter of practice, I tip a minimum of 20%.  I NEVER (unless there 
> is no option) apply a tip to a credit card payment, as such tips are 
> easily taxable.  Cash left on the table, hanging on the outside 
> doorknob (newspaper service), stuffed into an envelope into somebody's 
> mail slot, etc. etc. . . is virtually non-taxable (as there are no 
> receipts involved). 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. 
> But first you must learn to smile as you kill, 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
> On Jan 9, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Kai Eiselein 
> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>>  
> wrote: 
>  
> The fact that tipped employees can be paid less is nothing new, nor is 
> it confined to Idaho, Tom. 
> My second job out of high school was as a waiter and I made something 
> like $1.25/hr plus tips. I averaged about $75 a day in tips... in 1982, 
> in the poorest county in Arizona. When I was promoted into a management 
> position, I actually made LESS than I did as a waiter, $1,400/mo vs 
> about $1,700. 
> We had an older lady, nicknamed Granny, who had waited tables for most 
> of her adult life, and she was upset if she didn't pull in at least 
> $150/day. 
> The thing I see now, is that servers "expect" good tips regardless of 
> whether their service merits it or not. I busted my ass to make tips, 
> and was usually rewarded. 
> I tip well for those who provide good service, a $23 tip on an $77 
> ticket in NY last week, for example. On the other hand, I won't stiff a 
> server, but I will leave as little as 50 cents to send a message that 
> their service sucked. I've left a lot of those here in Moscow. 
> You want my money? Earn it. 
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From:  
> thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com><mailto:thansen at moscow.com> 
> To: ngier006 at gmail.com<mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com>; 
> godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com><mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com> 
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 12:41:47 -0800 
> CC:  
> vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
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>  
> Speaking of Idaho and minimum wage . . . 
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> Courtesy of the Idaho Department of Labor at: 
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> http://labor.idaho.gov/pdf/wagehour.pdf 
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> “MINIMUM WAGE 
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> Unless specifically exempt, all employees subject to the provisions of 
> the Idaho Minimum Wage Law must be paid at least $7.25 per hour 
> effective July 24, 2009. The federal minimum wage increased to $7.25 
> per hour effective the same date. 
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> A “TIPPED EMPLOYEE” means any employee engaged in an occupation in 
> which the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a 
> month in tips. 
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> To determine the wage of tipped employees, an employee’s tips combined 
> with the employer’s cash wage must equal the minimum hourly wage. If it 
> doesn’t, the employer must make up the difference. It is the employer’s 
> burden to demonstrate the amount of tips actually received by the 
> employee. 
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> Any portion of tips paid to an employee, which is shared with other 
> employees under a tip pooling or similar arrangement, shall not be 
> deemed, for the purpose of this section, to be tips actually received 
> by the employee; therefore, only the portion of tips actually retained 
> by the employee may be counted toward the tip credit. 
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>  
> The minimum tipped wage in Idaho is $3.35 per hour effective July 24, 2007. 
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> It is important to note that the Idaho Minimum Wage Law applies to all 
> Idaho employers unless they meet the specific exemptions under Idaho 
> Code §44-1504. 
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>  
> Even though businesses come under the exemptions for paying minimum 
> wage by meeting the dollar volume test of the Fair Labor Standards Act, 
> they are still subject to the provisions of the Idaho Minimum Wage Law. 
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> New employees under 20 years of age may be paid $4.25 per hour during 
> their first 90 consecutive calendar days of employment with an 
> employer.” 
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> Title 44, Chapter 15, Section 1504 
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> http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title44/T44CH15SECT44-1504.htm 
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>  
> Yep.  That’s right.  Idaho has made it legal to pay “tipped employees” 
> less than minimum wage. 
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> Now, imagine being a single-parent-waitress in Idaho. 
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> What can I say, but . . . 
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> Esto perpetua, V-Peeps. 
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> Tom Hansen 
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> Moscow, Idaho 
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> From:  
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com> 
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Gier 
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:58 AM 
> To: Paul Rumelhart 
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow com 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
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> Hi Paul, 
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>  
> This a cute rhetorical trick used by conservatives, but I will trump 
> you: Let's raise the minimum wage to $1 million an hour. 
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> Of course all proposals, including the one that will probably even pass 
> in Idaho (I recommend that you sign the petition, Paul), call for a 
> gradual increases pegged to inflation. 
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>  
> As we have seen from history, the free market does not (no surprise 
> here) solve all problems.  The government had to intervene to make it 
> possible for workers to bargaining collectively, so that they did not 
> have to blow up their workplaces in desperation.  There were no 
> incentives for employers to bargain in good faith without "enabling" 
> legislation.  Likewise with wages.  The market will keep them as low as 
> employers desire with dire consequences for workers and society as a 
> whole. 
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>  
> Paul, can you tell me why the economies of Australia and Brazil are 
> doing so well if increasing the minimum wage is so destructive?  I 
> always like to offer empirical evidence for the theories I prefer. 
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>  
> Nick 
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> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Paul Rumelhart 
> <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com><mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com><mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> 
> wrote: 
>  
> I have no idea why Rosauers decided to build their new store in WA 
> instead of ID.  I'm not privy to that kind of information.  Why did 
> they? 
>  
> I'm not trying to shove a point down people's throats or get in a quick 
> zinger.  I'm trying to have a discussion.  Whenever anyone brings up 
> raising the minimum wage, I'm reminded that I'm distrustful of 
> government intrusions into the free markets.  It also makes me wonder 
> where they expect small businesses to get the money for the wage and 
> resulting benefit increases.  It also makes me wonder what sort of 
> equation they use to determine that $9.32 for example is the 
> appropriate value to raise them to.  I also start thinking about 
> reasons people might not be paying that higher wage before the raise 
> happens, and I don't just assume "greed" and "GOP is evil" as the 
> answer. 
>  
> Paul 
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> ________________________________ 
>  
> From: Nicholas Gier 
> <ngier006 at gmail.com<mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com>> 
> To: Moscow Cares 
> <moscowcares at moscow.com<mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com><mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com><mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com>> 
> Cc: Paul Rumelhart 
> <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com><mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com><mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>>; 
> Donovan Arnold 
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com<mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com><mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com><mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>>; 
> "fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>" 
> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>>; 
> "vision2020 at moscow com" 
> <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:11 AM 
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
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>  
> Tom: you forgot one thing.  These people will pay more taxes. 
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>  
> Paul: you can theorize all you want. but the facts are in from 
> Australia ($16/hour), Brazil (two huge increases in the minimum wage), 
> and now our neighboring state.  Otter just boasted about Idaho's GDP 
> growth, but it's even better in good ole lefty WA. 
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> Recently, Rosauer's had a choice to build a new store in Newport, WA. 
>   They had a choice between the WA side and the ID side.  Why did they 
> choose the WA side, Paul? 
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>  
> Yours for worker's rights and against the theft of their productivity, 
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>  
> Nick 
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> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Moscow Cares 
> <moscowcares at moscow.com<mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com><mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com><mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com>> 
> wrote: 
>  
> Paul Rumelhart inquires: 
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> "If our government mandates an increase in wages, won't most businesses 
> in this tough economy who have already mapped out just how much they 
> can afford to spend on salaries (and benefits) simply lay some people 
> off?" 
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> This certainly explains the state of Washington's (the state with the 
> highest minimum wage at $9.32/hour) unemployment rate of 6.8% (rankin' 
> in at 24th among the Nifty Fifty). 
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> And it most certainly explains why Hawkins Companies wants to build a 
> mall (employing many many people) just west of the Washington/Idaho 
> state-line. 
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>  
> Although my degree is in Information Systems, and not related to 
> economics, let me try to explain this . . . 
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>  
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> - If minimum wage is increased, the more money the people collecting 
> these wages will have. 
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> - If people have more money, they tend to spend more money. 
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> - If people soend more money, more products are sold. 
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> - If more products are sold, demand for those products goes up. 
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> - If demand for products goes up, more of those products must be 
> manufactured and stocked. 
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> - If more products are manufactured and stocked, more people must be 
> employed to manufacture, stock, and sell these products. 
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> Am I going too fast for you, Mr. Rumelhart? 
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>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
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>  
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
>  
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
>  
>  
> Tom Hansen 
>  
> Moscow, Idaho 
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>  
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. 
>  
> But first you must learn to smile as you kill, 
>  
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
>  
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
> On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Paul Rumelhart 
> <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com><mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com><mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> 
> wrote: 
>  
> If our government mandates an increase in wages, won't most businesses 
> in this tough economy who have already mapped out just how much they 
> can afford to spend on salaries (and benefits) simply lay some people 
> off?  The only other option is to raise prices, but people selling 
> widgets are already working to hit that optimal price for their product 
> based on a number of factors.  Having to raise price to offset salaries 
> could upset the apple cart.  Same thing if they have to scale back 
> because they can't afford to pay everyone at the new wage level. 
>  
> I'm curious whether that 10 to 25 percent number is really what we see 
> locally. 
>  
> Paul 
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> ________________________________ 
>  
> From: Donovan Arnold 
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com<mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com><mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com><mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>> 
> To: 
> "fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>" 
> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>>; 
> "ngier006 at gmail.com<mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com>" 
> <ngier006 at gmail.com<mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com>> 
> Cc: "vision2020 at moscow com" 
> <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:49 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
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> The welfare state is bloated. It is bloated because wages are so low 
> that a family of two working adults cannot pay their basic living 
> expenses. If we raised wages less people would be on goverment 
> assistance and more would be paying taxes instead. The idea that 
> raising wages only causes inflation is an outdated one. This was when 
> labor was 50 to 90 percent of a business's expenses. Today, because of 
> automation and moving of jobs overseas, labor is only 10 to 25 percent 
> of a business's expense. Further, the bottom 90 percent of wage earners 
> make up an even smaller percentage of a business's expenses. Therefore, 
> raising wages even as much as 50 percent would only cause a 5 percent 
> increase in prices cover loses by employers. A 50 percent pay raise for 
> 5 percent inflation would be a good increase in quality of life. 
>  
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android 
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> ________________________________ 
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> From: Nicholas Gier 
> <ngier006 at gmail.com<mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com><mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com>>; 
> To: Kai Eiselein 
> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>>; 
> Cc: 
> vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>; 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
> Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 7:44:59 AM 
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> The question to ask about American poverty is where would we be today 
> without Medicare, Medicaid, and Food Stamps?  We are now at the bottom 
> of most industrialized nations in general health (worst in preventable 
> deaths), poverty, child health, STDs, infant mortality, adult life 
> spans, etc., etc. Without these programs we would have dropped to into 
> Third World conditions. 
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>  
> Kai: if it is the bloated welfare state's fault, why is it that the 
> Nordic countries (see attached) with the most generous benefits and 
> highest taxes are at the top of of all these quality of life 
> indicators?  As I have been saying for years, economic facts defeat the 
> GOP on every issue. 
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> Brazil has raised its minimum wage twice in huge increments, and its 
> poverty rate has dropped dramatically and its economy keeps humming 
> along.  If the U.S. federal minimum wage had kept pace with inflation, 
> we would have won the war on poverty with that effort alone. Adjusted 
> for inflation wages have been flat since Ronnie Reagan, while the 
> fruits of our labor has gone to the rich and the corporations. 
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> The minimum wage in Australia is $16/hour and it was one of the only 
> countries that flew through the Great Recession with flying colors. 
>   They were government by the lefty Labor Party the whole time. 
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> The facts support the Middle Way between Communism and Libertarianism, 
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>  
> Nick 
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>  
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Kai Eiselein 
> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com><mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>> 
> wrote: 
>  
> That's pretty much what the graph in USA Today showed this morning. 
> They had an article about it in yesterday and today's edition. Saw it 
> while eating breakfast at a La Quinta the past two mornings. 
> If I had to venture a guess for why it has failed, it would be that too 
> much money goes to bloated bureaucracies and not enough gets to the 
> actual programs. 
> Our government can be counted on for a few things: 
> Lies 
> Spying on citizens 
> F---king up just about everything it tries to manage. 
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From: 
> scooterd408 at hotmail.com<mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com><mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com><mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com> 
> To:  
> thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com><mailto:thansen at moscow.com><mailto:thansen at moscow.com>; 
> vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:51:55 -0700 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
>  
>  
> War on Poverty at 50 -- despite trillions spent, poverty won 
> 'Over, the last 50 years, the government spent more than $16 trillion 
> to fight poverty. 
> Yet today, 15 percent of Americans still live in poverty. That’s 
> scarcely better than the 19 percent living in poverty at the time of 
> Johnson’s speech. Nearly 22 percent of children live in poverty 
> today. In 1964, it was 23 percent.' 
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> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/08/war-on-poverty-at-50-despite-trillions-spent-poverty-won/ 
>  
> I don't have the time to fact check, but the story is from Fox News 
> which is the only source of news trusted by conservatives. 
>  
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From: 
> thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com><mailto:thansen at moscow.com><mailto:thansen at moscow.com> 
> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 04:48:26 -0800 
> To: 
> vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Subject: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) 
>  
>  
> "This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on 
> poverty in America. I urge this Congress and all Americans to join with 
> me in that effort. 
>  
> It will not be a short or easy struggle, no single weapon or strategy 
> will suffice, but we shall not rest until that war is won. The richest 
> Nation on earth can afford to win it. We cannot afford to lose it. One 
> thousand dollars invested in salvaging an unemployable youth today can 
> return $40,000 or more in his lifetime. 
>  
> Poverty is a national problem, requiring improved national organization 
> and support. But this attack, to be effective, must also be organized 
> at the State and the local level and must be supported and directed by 
> State and local efforts. 
>  
> For the war against poverty will not be won here in Washington. It must 
> be won in the field, in every private home, in every public office, 
> from the courthouse to the White House. 
>  
> The program I shall propose will emphasize this cooperative approach to 
> help that one-fifth of all American families with incomes too small to 
> even meet their basic needs. 
>  
> Our chief weapons in a more pinpointed attack will be better schools, 
> and better health, and better homes, and better training, and better 
> job opportunities to help more Americans, especially young Americans, 
> escape from squalor and misery and unemployment rolls where other 
> citizens help to carry them. 
>  
> Very often a lack of jobs and money is not the cause of poverty, but 
> the symptom. The cause may lie deeper in our failure to give our fellow 
> citizens a fair chance to develop their own capacities, in a lack of 
> education and training, in a lack of medical care and housing, in a 
> lack of decent communities in which to live and bring up their 
> children. 
>  
> But whatever the cause, our joint Federal-local effort must pursue 
> poverty, pursue it wherever it exists--in city slums and small towns, 
> in sharecropper shacks or in migrant worker camps, on Indian 
> Reservations, among whites as well as Negroes, among the young as well 
> as the aged, in the boom towns and in the depressed areas. 
>  
> Our aim is not only to relieve the symptom of poverty, but to cure it 
> and, above all, to prevent it. No single piece of legislation, however, 
> is going to suffice. 
>  
> We will launch a special effort in the chronically distressed areas of 
> Appalachia. 
>  
> We must expand our small but our successful area redevelopment program. 
>  
> We must enact youth employment legislation to put jobless, aimless, 
> hopeless youngsters to work on useful projects. 
>  
> We must distribute more food to the needy through a broader food stamp 
> program. 
>  
> We must create a National Service Corps to help the economically 
> handicapped of our own country as the Peace Corps now helps those 
> abroad. 
>  
> We must modernize our unemployment insurance and establish a high-level 
> commission on automation. If we have the brain power to invent these 
> machines, we have the brain power to make certain that they are a boon 
> and not a bane to humanity. 
>  
> We must extend the coverage of our minimum wage laws to more than 2 
> million workers now lacking this basic protection of purchasing power. 
>  
> We must, by including special school aid funds as part of our education 
> program, improve the quality of teaching, training, and counseling in 
> our hardest hit areas." 
>  
> - President Lyndon Johnson in his State of the Union Address (January 
> 8, 1964) 
>  
> http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/640108.asp 
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> ----------------------------------- 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
>  
>  
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/><http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. 
> But first you must learn to smile as you kill, 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
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>   List services made available by First Step Internet, 
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> List services made available by First Step Internet, 
> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. 
>                http://www.fsr.net<http://www.fsr.net/> 
>            mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> 
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> List services made available by First Step Internet, 
> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. 
>                http://www.fsr.net<http://www.fsr.net/> 
>           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com 
> ======================================================= 
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> Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com 
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