[Vision2020] Ferguson second grade protesters 'get it'

Tue Dec 16 16:13:50 PST 2014

To expand on the point of “It really is a double-edged 
sword,” had the body been moved sooner, Mr. Hansen would still be claiming this to be an action of disrespect and that the crime scene wasn't processed properly.

From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
To: thansen at moscow.com; paul.rumelhart at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:06:21 -0700
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ferguson second grade protesters 'get it'

Mr. Hansen writes:
<Another question that NEEDS an answer:  Why did Brown's body lay dead on
 the ground . . . untouched . . for four hours . . . after the police 
officer shot and killed,him?>

The article you linked to does a pretty good job answering that question by providing a number of reasons:

This shooting was on a Saturday, with a skeleton crew on 
duty and an earlier incident miles away that delayed detectives from 
getting to Ferguson.Jackson and others said the scene 
was so chaotic that there were moments when they didn’t know if they 
were going to get out without getting hurt or hurting someone else.Several
 medical examiners and coroner officials from across the country said 
every crime scene is different. Some take all day to process.“Sometimes
 it’s a little disconcerting in an open scene for the family to see a 
body lying there,” said Dave R. Fowler, chief medical examiner in 
Baltimore. “But this is not ‘CSI.’”The best way to serve
 the public and the victim’s family is to do your job properly, they all
 said, and get as close to the truth as possible.There 
are absolutes in police work, Belmar said in an interview Friday. 
Protect the crime scene. Investigate thoroughly. “What would we have 
gained by taking pictures of Mr. Brown’s body and simply getting him out
 of there as fast as we could?” Belmar asked. “... It might have moved 
(the timeline) up an hour and a half.”Or would that have
 left the grand jury — convening now on this case — without the benefit 
of a thorough crime scene investigation? “It really is a double-edged 
sword,” Belmar said.

The article also concedes that the reasons listed above don't matter because the headline of 'white cop kills black man' trumps all else:

But for many in Ferguson, none of 
that will matter. Regardless of the evidence, the experts, the gunshots 
and the crowds, a young man’s body left on the street for four hours 
just doesn’t make sense.“You’ll never make anyone black 
believe that a white kid would have laid in the street for four hours,” 
said Mike Jones, an African-American and chief aide to St. Louis County 
Executive Charlie Dooley. “It defies any understanding of reality.”And that anger won’t go away soon, several Canfield residents recently said.Torregrossa
 can still see Brown’s feet and head sticking out from the white sheet, 
too small to cover his tall frame. “The image in my mind, him laying in 
the street, that baffles me,” Torregrossa said.“That’s the only image I have of this young man, and I can’t shake it.”

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ferguson second grade protesters 'get it'
From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 15:42:31 -0800
CC: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
To: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com

Mr. Dredge -
Another question that NEEDS an answer:  Why did Brown's body lay dead on the ground . . . untouched . . for four hours . . . after the police officer shot and killed,him?
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/why-was-michael-brown-s-body-left-there-for-hours/article_0b73ec58-c6a1-516e-882f-74d18a4246e0.html

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon  
On Dec 16, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Paul Rumelhart <paul.rumelhart at gmail.com> wrote:

I really hate how this whole thing has developed.  It started with the death of Brown, with scant information, at which time it was believable that he might have been raising his hands asking the cop not to shoot him.  I can see people jumping on that bandwagon.  Later, it came to light that he had assaulted the cop in his car, which totally changes the story.  It's still unfortunate, but it's miles away from saying "please don't shoot me" and raising your hands.  The cops-use-black-people-as-target-practice meme is a powerful one, though, and that's what gets said during the protests.  Damn the facts, anyway, I guess.

There may actually be a real problem here, since there have now been two grand jury refusals to indict that I disagree with, but it's obscured by this sort of thing.  If the people protesting don't give a damn about what actually happened, then why should I take anything they say, whether they are 7 years old or 70, at face value?  My basic assumption right now for these protests is that they are making shit up and only if I see evidence otherwise will I begin to believe them.  It's sad, really.

Paul

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:

It's a worthy cause to protest “against the unjust systems that allow police officers to kill Black men and boys with impunity,”

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/second-graders-spend-recess-protesting-ferguson-105366598412.html

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