[Vision2020] And yet no apology . . .

Scott Dredge scooterd408 at hotmail.com
Sun Sep 1 13:59:12 PDT 2013


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It's best to keep displays of 'lack of mature responsibility' private.  And if we have young people who read Vision 2020 as well as other people who are decent, moral, and upstanding, it would be best to ix-nay any references to ircle-say erks-jay as well as similar post from you regarding ubber-ray olls-day and so forth.

From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:01:16 -0700
To: bear at moscow.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And yet no apology . . .

I have more important things on my mind and on my to-do list for the next several months, Mr. Price, than to play I'm-rubber-you're-glue with some poorly equipped third grader here on the Viz ad nauseum.  So tell ya what . . 
Here is a message you can share with your buddies at your next circle jerk and/or at the sandbox during your next show-and-tell . . .
You win!  


On Aug 31, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:

STRONGLY advise you to wish in one hand, and............................ well, you know the rest.

With all the due respect you deserve,

Wayne




On Aug 31, 2013, at 3:22 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:Although I have recently been scolded for what has been interpreted and perceived to be a lack of maturity on my part, I stepped forward and apologized, both publicly and privately, to those affected.  After all, to do less would (and should) be considered a lack of mature responsibility.
Subsequently, my feet have been put to the proverbial fire here on the Viz by certain members who place themselves on the moral highground.
Yet, as reflected in the public exchange below, I have been referred to as "racist" by Wayne Price, based on nothing more than his wrongful characterization of an article I posted.
No apology from Mr. Price.  No retraction.  
Accountability and mature responsibility are fates all of us must bear, not just those to whom some of us hold a degree of animosity.
As such, Mr. Price should account for his insulting comment.  Yet, given the character of those who placed themseves on the previously mentioned moral highground, none is expected.
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon
 

On Aug 28, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

No, Mr. Price.  
That is not racist.  The humor was aimed directly at former Army Major Nidal Hasan, the killer of 13 American soldiers and one unborn child at Fort Hood, Texas, who was sentenced to death a mere few hours ago.
Howver, you are entitled to your opinion, as shallow as it is.
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon
 

On Aug 28, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:

And that's not racist?
Tom, there are only two things wrong with you - your face!









On Aug 28, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:Courtesy of the Duffel Blog at:
http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/08/nidal-hasan-granted-terminal-leave/ -------------------------------------Nidal Hasan Granted Terminal Leave<AP_nidal_hasan_jef_130806_16x9_992.jpg>FORT HOOD, TX — A military jury has granted Army Maj. Nidal Hasan terminal leave today, sparking consternation throughout the military.The decision fanned flames sparked by recent revelations that he was continuing to receive full pay and benefits while on trial for an act of workplace violence that left 13 dead and wounded more than 30 others. Witnesses reported that Hasan shouted “Allahu Akbar” — Arabic for “I am dissatisfied with my working conditions” — during the attack.By granting him terminal leave, the Army will transfer him from active duty to the “involuntary reserve, dead” list. He will be required to undergo a final physical, including a single vaccination through an IV.His pay and benefits, including respiration and cardiac function, will be stopped.At press time, many observers were upset that he had not received a harsher sentence.
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Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon
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