[Vision2020] It's up!

Tue May 14 11:06:51 PDT 2013

I am delighted, indeed eager, to be identified as intolerant of the  vile and dangerous words flowing from the mouth and pen of Moscow’s infamous (and these days third or fourth tier), minister, Doug Wilson.  Weak men love patriarchy – it provides them the justification to bully women and children.  It fills all the cracks and crevices that others recognize as gaping holes in their moral character and intellectual capacity. It justifies and celebrates the antebellum south.  Patriarchy  gives mediocre, immature men what is so profoundly missing in their lives -  a sense of self worth automatically granted not on achievement or character  but solely on  gender.  It is unimaginable to me,  that you, Paul, in your apparently fanatical desire to be a recognized as a contrarian continue to defend the indefensible.  Do you ever find yourself even slightly embarrassed when you read crap like the material quoted below?  Do you want to be known as a person who defends that philosophy, Paul?  And, please don’t split hairs by claiming that Doug has the right to free speech – we all get that.  What I don’t get is why you think his disgusting drivel should go unchallenged.  

“When we quarrel with the way the world is, we find that the world has ways of getting  back at us.  In other words, however we try, the sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party.  A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants.  A woman receives, surrenders, accepts.  This is of course offensive to all egalitarians, and so our culture has reveled against the concept of authority and submission in marriage.  This means that we have sought to suppress the concepts of authority and submission as they relate to the marriage bed.  But we cannot make gravity disappear just because we dislike it, and in the same way we find that our banished authority and submission comes back to us in pathological forms.  This is what lies behind sexual bondage and submission games, along with very common rape fantasies.  Men dream of being rapists, and women find themselves wistfully reading novels in which someone ravishes the “soon to be made willing” heroine. Thos who deny they have any need for water at wall will soon find themselves lusting water polluted water, but water nonetheless. True authority and true submission are therefore an erotic necessity.  

Douglas Wilson, Fidelity, What It Means to Be a One-Woman Man, Moscow, Idaho Canon Press, 1999

Rose Huskey

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:53 AM
To: Paul Rumelhart
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] It's up!

Ah, yes . . .

You must be referring to Doug "Why is everybody always pickin' on me" Wilson.

The same Doug Wilson who filed a police complaint against yours truly . . . then suggested that the MPD merely file the complaint for future reference and not investigate it.

Then there was that time that my wife's medical history was posted online at Right-Mind.

Faxes, originating here in Moscow from a former member of Christ Church, sent to a wide range of UI offices a number of years back, making false allegations against the UI.

And so on . . . and so on . . . and so on . . .

Ain't karma GREAT!

Seeya at the Wingding, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)

http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 

But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

On May 14, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

I do find that kind of ironic.

I mean, I could understand being proud of the "Intolerista" label if they were, in fact, tolerant of Christ Church but the members of Christ Church thought they weren't.  As it stands, the "Intoleristas" appear to be proud of their actual intolerance.  That's what makes this funny.  The Christ Church members are more tolerant of the Intolerista's intolerance than the Intoleristas are tolerant of them.

Funny how the world works, sometimes.

Paul

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From: Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> 
Cc: Friends of the Clearwater <foc at friendsoftheclearwater.org>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>; Longfeather Book Design <erik at longfeatherbookdesign.com>; Jeanne McHale <jeannemchale at hotmail.com>; Fritz Knorr <fritzknorr at gmail.com>; Brett Haverstick <bhaverstick at yahoo.com>; Vera White <vnwhite at cableone.net>; Wild Idaho Rising Tide <wild.idaho.rising.tide at gmail.com>; Helen Yost <helen.yost at vandals.uidaho.edu> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] It's up!

It's amusing that the folks you gather to revile are tolerant enough to help hold up your adverisement.

g

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

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Seeya there, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)

http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/> 

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 

But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

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