[Vision2020] Rand Paul, one more time

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sat Mar 9 16:04:41 PST 2013


Interesting.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> You have to know who he was speaking to-- in the extreme right-wing &
> survivalist blogiverse, Ruby Ridge and Waco still echo loudly. That's the
> situation(s) he was talking about. Can the (black man) in the White House
> shoot a Hellfire missile on my survivalist compound?
>
> Ron Force
> Moscow Idaho USA
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> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 2:54 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Rand Paul, one more time
>
> So I've waited a few days and I've done a little bit of research and
> my verdict thus far on Rand Paul is that the filibuster was not the
> good deed some folks (Sunil, Paul) thought that it was.
>
> In today's Washington Post, for instance, he says the following: "I
> wanted to sound an alarm bell from coast to coast. I wanted everybody
> to know that our Constitution is precious and that no American should
> be killed by a drone without first being charged with a crime. As
> Americans, we have fought long and hard for the Bill of Rights. The
> idea that no person shall be held without due process, and that no
> person shall be held for a capital offense without being indicted, is
> a founding American principle and a basic right."
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sen-rand-paul-my-filibuster-was-just-the-beginning/2013/03/08/6352d8a8-881b-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394_story.html?hpid=z2
>
> This -- the only substantive reason he gave for his filibuster in the
> WP today -- has NOTHING to do with drone killings in other countries;
> nor does it have anything to do with other kinds of civil liberty
> violations, such as improper searches. Then there is the point that
> Rose mentioned: How is killing someone with a drone more of a
> violation of their Constitutional rights than merely shooting them,
> which happens fairly regularly when police are trying to apprehend a
> suspect?
>
> I love Rand Paul's hair and I want to like him but he seems like a
> fake. He raised the issue knowing it was vague and ambiguous to gain a
> fair amount of support -- from well meaning people like Sunil and Paul
> who are concerned about other important issue related to drones. But
> he didn't talk about the other important issues.
>
> And there is something particularly annoying about fiscal libertarians
> who are anti-abortion. This isn't a real quote from Rand Paul but it
> might as well be: "The government should stay OUT of your life --
> unless it comes to my own personal beliefs, which you should be forced
> to accept. And by the way, once you pop that baby out, you've got to
> raise it on your own because I'm cutting all the government programs
> which might have helped your baby."
>
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