[Vision2020] Rand Paul

[Sunil Ramalingam]

I'm with Paul R and R Paul on this. Like Paul R, when I read Sen. Paul's statement, my regret was that he limits his concern to US citizens on US soil. We should be concerned about these atrocities wherever they occur. This, and his expansion of the security state and executive power, and his refusal to prosecute torturers (but his willingness to prosecute those who expose it) led me to vote for Jill Stein in the last election. That was the first time since 1980, when I could first vote, that I didn't vote for the Democratic Party candidate. And I'm not coming back while the Democrats embrace and take Bush-Cheney policies to heart.

Sunil

Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:43:14 -0800
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
CC: Vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rand Paul


  
    
  
  
    

      "Showboating", huh?  Whatever.

      

      The vast amount of drone strikes overseas have either been against
      people on their kill list going about their day, not currently
      involved in a violent attack, or they have been against people
      they can't identify but that they are reasonably sure are
      terrorists because of their associations.  Again, not taking them
      out while they are actively engaged in combat, just assassinating
      them wherever they happen to find them, doing whatever they happen
      to be doing at that moment.  Doing the dishes, blam, dead, along
      with who knows how many people nearby.  No due process, no vetting
      of evidence, no jury of their peers, no idea even what criteria
      our President uses to determine who gets to die that day.

      

      Nobody I've seen is saying that we can't use drones, even on
      American soil, against people actively involved in combat.  The
      problem is that that isn't what they are being used for.

      

      If you want to wish this away as some kind of stunt because he's a
      Paul or because he's a Republican or because you don't like his
      haircut, then you're part of the problem.  Our President is out of
      control with these assassinations, and our police departments are
      out of control in their militarization.  Drop the damned Us vs.
      Them crap, please.

      

      Paul

      

      On 03/06/2013 06:06 PM, Rosemary Huskey wrote:

    
    
      
      
      
      
      
        Should
            there be a disclaimer with this “purist’s” showboating?  
            Where does shooting someone in self-defense, or those
            occasions when law enforcement  officers are forced by a
             critically dangerous situation (for example  a gun battle)
            to shoot to kill come into this equation?  I am sure that
            Rand will zoon right to the top of the list of right wing
            nutbags with this stunt.  
        Rose
         
         
        
          
            From:
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                [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of
                Paul Rumelhart

                Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:55 PM

                To: Vision 2020

                Subject: [Vision2020] Rand Paul
          
        
         
        I found this on Google+, I didn't make it
          and I don't claim it.  

          

          I don't agree with this guy on everything by any means and I
          wish he'd left out the "on American soil" part, but I am
          behind him on this.

          

          

          

          

          Paul
      
    
    

  


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