[Vision2020] Huh? Say WHAT!?

Fri Mar 1 15:33:16 PST 2013

I agree that polygamy is unproblematic -- ideally. Historically is another
issue.

I'm no expert but in the Western world it seems at least that polygamy has
associations with cults and marriage of the young. Maybe that is just a
prejudice on my part. I'm open to being enlightened. But if anything is
important, it is important that the decision to marry be a free decision.
To the extent that a practice might comprise that freedom, we should look
into it further.

There's my view in a nutshell: Polygamy? Worth a further look. Gay
marriage? Fuhgeddaboutit!

PS Note that there is a difference on this account between the two -- so at
any rate the slope might not be so slippery.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> Good point, Wayne.
>
> I may, even, have to seriously rethink my opinion on polygamy.
>
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> @Tom,
>
> Congratulations on your happy marriage and wonderful life together; may it
> go on and on.
>
> I agree that those adults regardless of gender who feel strongly about
> sharing their lives like you and Rodna have, there should be no
> prohibitions especially those fostered by ancient religious delusions.
>
> I think the same way about three adults who feel the same way about
> sharing their lives similarly.  Reality:  It sometimes happens.  Why should
> we prohibit it?
>
> w.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> I absolutely fail to see what the happiness of two adults has ANYTHING to
>> do with a polygamous relationship.
>>
>> Let me simply say . . .
>>
>> Later this year, I turn 62, my spouse turns whatever age she acquires,
>> and we (my spouse and I) turn 40; forty of the most wonderfully memorable
>> and loving years of yesterdays that will only be improved upon with
>> tomorrows.
>>
>> To deny ANY two individuals of such an experience, merely because it runs
>> contra to somebody else's belief system, lacks the slightest inkling of
>> human compassion.
>>
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think the general argument would run something like this:  "if it's OK
>> for any two consenting adults of either gender to marry, then why isn't it
>> OK for any three or more consenting adults of any gender to marry?"
>>
>> If that's what he's thinking, I can kind of see his point.  Of course,
>> I'm personally fine with gay marriage, and would have no problems with
>> polygamy either.  I'd be happiest if the government got out of the marriage
>> racket to begin with, frankly.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>> *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 1, 2013 11:39 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Huh? Say WHAT!?
>>
>> Well, if he argued that polygamy and gay marriage are similar, then that
>> is just another fallacious argument. It is like arguing that we can give
>> every adult the right to vote because that would lead to some folks voting
>> more than once. We would be powerless to avoid that!
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> Cultmaster Wilson is hopelessly floundering as he is swept out to sea on
>> the tide of reality and oncoming change.  But that's what happens to those
>> that allege total faith in some "inerrant" ancient texts.  Foolhardiness
>> begets misery for others.
>>
>> It's too bad that the Cultmaster is not a Mormon so that he could have a
>> "new" vision from some alleged God correcting his current views.
>>
>> w.
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>
>>  "I argued at length that *all* the arguments employed to advance same
>> sex marriage can be, are being, and will be used to advance polygamy also.
>> In short, gay marriage greases the skids for polygamy."
>>
>> - Doug Wilson (March 1, 2013)
>> http://www.dougwils.com/Sex-and-Culture/a-century-of-sinkholes.html
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
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