[Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 85, Issue 95

Mon Jul 15 17:36:37 PDT 2013

No, Paul - you are missing the point.  Make as many excuses about
Zimmerman's "recklessness" as you want, but that doesn't change the fact
that an innocent child who was doing nothing wrong is now dead because he
(Trayvon) decided to exercise his right to defend himself against the deadly
menace named George Zimmerman.

Make no mistake about it:  Zimmerman was stalking this child the way a cat
stalks a bird.

And, make no mistake about it:  Trayvon Martin's death was unjust.  It is
absolutely unjust when an innocent child doing not a thing in the world
wrong winds up dead because a nut with an indisputable chip on his shoulder
has a gun, and the injustice is further magnified when the killer escapes
punishment.

Trayvon had every right to "stand his ground" against a gun-carrying whacko
who had already been told by LE not to follow the victim.  Any man, woman,
or child of any color with connected brain cells would feel threatened being
stalked at night by an unknown dangerous creep like Zimmerman.

And, if you don't Get why folks are rightly upset that a monster like
Zimmerman gets a free criminal pass for killing an innocent child and why
they want to organize a vigil - or millions of vigils -- in Trayvon Martin's
honor, then I don't know what to say other than I pity you and your lack of
humanity.

Finally, why don't you just give it a rest?  Your biased explanation of why
you felt the verdict was just was fine & mildly interesting, even though you
included a lot of subjective speculation supporting your bias I guess you
hoped we'd miss (LOL - too bad for you, I didn't miss your selective
subjectivity).

But, how about losing the arrogance that makes you think causes you don't
care about aren't worthy, and how about losing the hubris that makes you
think it appropriate to tell others where they should be directing their
energies?  If you want to organize or get out there & protest for your list
of causes, have at it!  No one is stopping you or suggesting you should be
directing your focus elsewhere.

Why, then, you do feel the need to chide others who do care - and care
deeply - about the completely preventable tragic death of an innocent child
at the hands of a lunatic vigilante?

Saundra

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:37 PM
To: Keely Emerine-Mix; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 85, Issue 95

The problem as I see it, Keely, is that you want it to be an injustice.  You
want it to be about the innocent black kid that was gunned down by the armed
white man for no reason other than he was black.  Facts to the contrary be
damned.  It's a nice story, but just remember that that's what it is: a
story.

Paul

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From: Keely Emerine-Mix <siyocreo at live.com>
To: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 85, Issue 95

Tom, be there Friday at 6, tell everyone you know, bring whatever microphone
you can, and I'll see you there.  I don't care how many people show up.  I
care very much that I myself not be silent in the face of such an injustice.

Keely

www.keely-prevailingwinds.com

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> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:28:21 -0700
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
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> I am with you 1,000,000,000 . . . %, Keely.
> 
> Please let me know what I, or Moscow Cares, can do to make this rally a
reality, and consider it done.
> 
> Come on, V-Peeps. GIVE A DAMN !
> 
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
> 
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
> 
> - John Lennon
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> 
> On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Keely Emerine-Mix <siyocreo at live.com> wrote:
> 
> > Visionaires, 
> > 
> > I've been out of town for two weeks so I don't know if there's a rally
or anything scheduled on the Palouse in support of the Trayvon Martin family
and to express outrage at the verdict. If not, I'd suggest 6 p.m. Friday at
Friendship Square. Please either inform me of something previously planned,
or pass this around. I'd be willing to speak and I know others of you would,
too.
> > 
> > This saddens and angers me beyond measure. We have to speak out.
> > 
> > Love,
> > Keely
> > 
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> From: Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
> To: Keely Emerine-Mix <siyocreo at live.com>, viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> What would be the point? It was very controversial to bring George
Zimmerman to trial in the first place. He was acquitted. Not even a hung
jury. Outright full acquittal.
> 
> I hate sounding like a broken record but for whatever reason I can't seem
to get a basic point across that ***we do not have system of mob rule***. If
we did, Zimmerman would have already been lynched without due process long
ago. Would that be less of an outrage?
> 
> -Scott
> 
> From: siyocreo at live.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:18:06 -0700
> Subject: [Vision2020] Trayvon Martin rally?
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> 
> 
> Visionaires, 
> 
> I've been out of town for two weeks so I don't know if there's a rally or
anything scheduled on the Palouse in support of the Trayvon Martin family
and to express outrage at the verdict. If not, I'd suggest 6 p.m. Friday at
Friendship Square. Please either inform me of something previously planned,
or pass this around. I'd be willing to speak and I know others of you would,
too.
> 
> This saddens and angers me beyond measure. We have to speak out.
> 
> Love,
> Keely
> 
> 
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> 
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> To: Keely Emerine-Mix <siyocreo at live.com>, "vision2020 at moscow.com"
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> Keely,
> 
> Did you look at the evidence?? I don't see how the jury could have done
any differently.? Zimmerman was using the "self-defense" defense, and there
was enough evidence of that to provide reasonable doubt (his injuries, the
witness who saw the guy in the white sweater beating on the guy in the red
sweater, the inability to determine who was shouting for help).? According
to Zimmerman, Martin saw his weapon and they fought for it and Zimmerman
ended up shooting him in the chest.? Since Martin isn't around to give his
side of events (conveniently, I know) and since there is no evidence to
disprove this, they pretty much had to acquit.? In my opinion, of course.?
To prove second degree murder, they would have to disprove the self-defense
defense and show that he was unhinged enough to take this opportunity to go
kill Martin.? I haven't seen any evidence of that, either.
> 
> 
> The media has worked hard to make this about race, but there was no
indication I saw that Zimmerman was racially motivated.? If anything, Martin
was the one framing everything by race.? NBC had to resort to editing the
9-1-1 tape to make it look like it was racially motivated, but the real
9-1-1 tape doesn't appear to show this (at least what I've heard of it).? 
> 
> 
> If you want to get out there and protest something, I recommend protesting
what NBC did when editing the 9-1-1 tape in an attempt to ignite racial
tensions.? Or protest what the NSA has been doing.? Or protest the drone
strikes or the secret courts or the secret reasoning for gathering
information on everyone that can't be revealed.? Or protest how the US is
going after Snowden so hard instead of cleaning house.? 
> 
> 
> Don't be distracted by this media circus.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Keely Emerine-Mix <siyocreo at live.com>
> To: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:18 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Trayvon Martin rally?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Visionaires, 
> 
> I've been out of town for two weeks so I don't know if there's a rally or
anything scheduled on the Palouse in support of the Trayvon Martin family
and to express outrage at the verdict.? If not, I'd suggest 6 p.m. Friday at
Friendship Square.? Please either inform me of something previously planned,
or pass this around.? I'd be willing to speak and I know others of you
would, too.
> 
> This saddens and angers me beyond measure.? We have to speak out.
> 
> Love,
> Keely
> 
> 
> 
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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