[Vision2020] gun shows

[Gary Crabtree]

Federal form 4473 must be filled out for every firearm purchase. They are on file and local law enforcement has access to them. If you purchased the weapon through a private sale they will contact the original purchaser and then follow the chain of ownership. The cops aren't as stupid as you make them out to be.

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From: Tom Hansen 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:04 PM
To: Dan Carscallen 
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] gun shows


What federal form did they have you fill out?


According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and FIREARMS [my emphasis] . . .


http://www.atf.gov/contact/faq/


"Some examples of the types of NFA firearms that must be registered are: Machine guns, frames or receivers of machine guns; any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting weapons into machine guns; any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for converting a weapon into a machine gun; any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person; silencers and any part designed and intended for fabricating a silencer; short-barreled rifles and shotguns; molotov cocktails, anti-tank guns (over caliber .50), bazookas, and mortars."


Here's a little something for your bookshelf . . . 


The National Firearms Act Handbook
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/nfa-handbook/
  
'Nuff said!


Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .


"Moscow Cares"
http://www.MoscowCares.com
  
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho


"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."


- John Lennon



On Jan 27, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:


  Well, the Feds know what rifles and/or shotguns I have purchased (or can easily find out) because each of the reputable dealers where the sale was made had me full out the federal form. Each form has my name and the serial number of the firearm, thereby linking it to me.  Is that in a state or national database? I don't know. I'm not a gun dealer, just a buyer and owner.


  Maybe not registration in the purest sense, but a form of it nonetheless.

  DC

  On Jan 27, 2013, at 18:46, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:


    Ahem, mr. Carscallen 


    http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/f/gunlaws_id.htm


    Rifles and Shotguns
      a.. Permit to purchase rifles and shotguns? No

      b.. Registration of rifles and shotguns? No

      c.. Licensing of owners of rifles and shotguns? No

      d.. Permit to carry rifles and shotguns? No
    My claim is also supported by Idaho state law at:


    http://www.211.idaho.gov/elibrary/FirearmLaws.html


    Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .


    "Moscow Cares"
    http://www.MoscowCares.com
      
    Tom Hansen
    Moscow, Idaho


    "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
    But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
    If you want to be like the folks on the hill."


    - John Lennon



    On Jan 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:


      Tom says:


        Rifles are not registered



      Yes they are. I've filled out the requisite paperwork.  

      DC

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