[Vision2020] Fwd: White House Petition asking Obama not to send a wreath to the Arlington Confederate Monument

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Fri Jan 11 13:44:31 PST 2013


Wayne Fox reminds us:

"Some people in the South are still fighting the Civil War in their various ways."

This took me all of thirty-five seconds to list.
Christian Confederate Radio 
This station has shut down and its website is closed. 
Interested parties might wish to visit Dixie Beacon Network or Radio Free Texas.

Church of Jesus Christ of Confederate Patriots 
(aka Confederate Falange, formerly Peter Luckett Ministries)

A bible study group based in Mississippi, with intentions to form a pro-Confederate religious group.
Confederate Digest (Weblog)

Confederate Falange 
See Church of Jesus Christ of Confederate Patriots

Confederate Society of America

"...founded in June 1992 as the FIRST southern nationalist organization, dedicated not only to preserving the Confederate heritage but to restoring the sovereignty of our nation; a sovereignty that was immorally and unjustly taken by the Grand Tyrant Lincoln and his Industrialist cronies in their War of Aggression, 1861-1865." - from the website
Confederate States Guard (Message Board)

Confederate States of America (CSAgov.org) 
(Alternative Link)

"This is the official web page of the Confederate States of America. Official statutes and journals of Congress of 1861-1865 are contained herein and are, for the most part, still binding upon the Confederate States of America as is the ratified C.S.A. Constitution of 1861." 
... 
"The national Government of the Confederate States of America does not, at this time, have any salaried personnel, but does pay some reimbursement of expenses of contractors for work contracted for by the government. It is important to note that the national Government is not structured to legally have control of the State C.S.A. Governments, but rather for them to function with the national Government and each other in accordance with the national C.S.A. Constitution and their own State Confederate Constitutions according to the dictates of the Citizens therein."-from the website
Confederate Underground 

Pro-Confederate site promoting, and liked to, other "racialy aware" sites such as American Renaissance and Council of Conservative Citizens 
http://members.tripod.com/~cupub/
Council of Conservative Citizens 

Reportedly founded on the remains of the old, pro-segregationist White Citizens Council. 
http://www.cofcc.org
Dixie Beacon Network (Dixie Broadcasting, WDXB) (Web Radio Station)

"Here at WDXB, you will hear pro-Southern broadcasting 24 hours every day and seven days a week! We are unapologetically dedicated to preserving Southern heritage by helping to pave the way for the future of the South. 
"You will hear a mixture of traditional Southern music, stirring new songs of the Southern Movement, informative and inspiring speeches on the Southern Cause of yesterday and today, news presented from a decidedly Southern perspective, and numerous special events highlighting the ongoing Southern Movement today." - from the website
Dixie Outfitters 

Retailer of Confederate themed clothing and merchandise.
DixieNet 
See League of the South

Fragile Legacies of Dixie (Weblog)

Heritage Preservation Association

Guarding our future by protecting our past. - website slogan 
"The Heritage Preservation Association (HPA) is a national nonprofit membership organization utilizing educational resources along with legal and political action to protect and preserve the symbols, culture and heritage of the American South. HPA has members in 49 states and 6 countries with chapters in 10 states." - from the website 
Affiliated with the CSA-Store
League of the South (DixieNet)

"We seek to advance the cultural, social, economic, and political well being and independence of the Southern people by all honourable means." - Statement of Purpose from the website
http://dixienet.org/rights/2012/index.php
NamSouth

Message board for Southern veterans of the Vietnam conflict.
Peter Luckett Ministries 
See Church of Jesus Christ of Confederate Patriots

New Confederacy

"Provisional Government site of the Confederate States of America under the proposed New Confederate Constitution" - from the website
Pointsouth.com

"The E-Voice of the Olde South" 
Also the home of: 
Apologia Book Shoppe 
CSA Label Company 
Little River Trading Company 
Un-Reconstructed (Musical group) 
Valley Framing Studio & Gallery 
Y'All Come Back Music Shoppe
Rebel Store

Dealer of Confederate-related gear.
Sons of Confederate Veterans

An organization of descendants of Confederate war veterans. The organization is the direct heir to United Confederate Veterans. 

http://www.scv.org/

NOTE: According to reports by the Southern Poverty Law Center in 2002 and 2007, this organization has effectively been taken over by white racialists, causing membership to fall sharply.
The Southern American

"A loud & proud southern Christian activist website!" - from the website
Southern Heritage News and Views

"Dedicated to the preservation of Southern Heritage and to defend the Honour of our Confederate Ancestors. - from the website 
Related websites: 
Bookstore 
Heritage Alerts 
Hot Spot
Southern Legal Resource Center

"This web site provides vital information for those concerned with preserving Southern Heritage, from the merely interested, to those under attack by South bashers, to the attorneys fighting to stop these abuses." - from the website
Southern Party

The national Southern Party reportedly dissolved several years ago, but there has been a state-by-state attempt to rebuild the party. The chapter websites are listed below: 
Southern Party of Georgia 
Southern Party of Mississippi 
Southern Party of North Carolina
Southern War Room

Southern activist forums and websites
United Daughters of the Confederacy

"United Daughters of the Confederacy is the outgrowth of many local memorial, monument and Confederate Home Associations and auxiliaries to Camps of Confederate Veterans which were organized after the War Between the States. It is the oldest patriotic organization in our country because of its connection with two statewide organizations which came into existence as early as 1890, namely the Daughters of the Confederacy (DOC) in Missouri and the Ladies' Auxiliary of the Confederate Soldiers Home in Tennessee." - from the website 
(This group was officially founded in 1894.)
WDXB 
See Dixie Beacon Network

Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares"
http://www.MoscowCares.com
  
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon
 

On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:

> Some people in the South are still fighting the Civil War in their various ways.
> 
> w.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, brothers fought against each other during the Civil War. That is well known. However, most brothers didn't. Most brothers -- most combatants, then and now -- choose their battles based on geographic and familial propinquity.
>> 
>> By the way, bibliophiles don't need to be advised to read books. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>> FYI, Chasuk . . . 
>>> 
>>> Familial brothers fought against each other during the Civil War.  People were NOT committed to any particular cause based simply and solely on their geographical location.
>>> 
>>> The CSA (Confederate States of America) attempted to secede from the union, for several reasons ("slavery" being one of them).  This took time and ultimately promulgated the Civil War.
>>> 
>>> Read a book.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>> 
>>> "Moscow Cares"
>>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>>   
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>> 
>>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
>>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
>>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>> 
>>> - John Lennon
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's a little early to prove Godwin's Law, don't you think?
>>>> 
>>>> Confederate soldiers were young men who woke up one morning as the enemy. They did nothing that their countrymen to the north would not have done had those countrymen been born in the south.
>>>> 
>>>> The government of the antebellum south no longer exists, so there is nothing that you can do, nor have ever been able to do, to support it. But supporting erstwhile antebellum governments is not the point. The point is showing compassion. I feel compassion for our soldiers today who serve in Afghanistan, while not necessarily supporting our government's decision to put them there. In my estimation, victors and vanquished alike deserve compassion. In this case, the vanquished were our fellows, born on the wrong side of an arbitrary line.    
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>>> In that case, Chasuk, perhaps you should petition the White House to erect monuments to those Japanese airmen that bombed Pearl Harbor and the Nazis that interred and killed six million Jews.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not, and I NEVER will, support the government of the antebellum south.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Moscow Cares"
>>>>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>>>>   
>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>> 
>>>>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
>>>>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
>>>>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>>>> 
>>>>> - John Lennon
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I disagree with the intent of this petition. Confederate soldiers died with as much honor -- and as much heroism, if such a thing exists -- as their Yankee counterparts. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Visionaires (et al) -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I encourage you to visit and sign the petition linked below.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Moscow Cares"
>>>>>>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Date: January 11, 2013, 8:47:30 AM PST
>>>>>>>> To: <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: White House Petition asking Obama not to send a wreath to the Arlington Confederate Monument
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>>>>    At this URL is a petition asking Obama not to send a wreath to the
>>>>>>>> Arlington Confederate Monument.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://wh.gov/PLBU
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you could sign it and let people know about it I would greatly appreciate
>>>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ed Sebesta
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://arlingtonconfederatemonument.blogspot.com/
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