[Vision2020] Another Answer to School Shootings . . .

Thu Jan 3 12:34:24 PST 2013

Winning A Republican Primary in Idaho is not necessarily a sign of
intelligence, knowledge, honesty, compassion, and/or mental health.

w.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:

> He won the last two Republican primaries.
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Why do we care what Bouma thinks? I don't like Obamacare either. It is
> simply a tax on people that cannot afford to give money to fraud artists
> called insurance companies.
>
> Donovan J. Arnold
>   *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *To:* Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2013 7:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Another Answer to School Shootings . . .
>
> What is the deal with the alleged connection between Obamacare and
> (supposed) "corporate welfare to big pharma," as you say Scott? That is
> clearly what he's getting at. I confess ignorance on this matter --
> meaning, I have no idea whether there is a link between the two or not. Is
> there a link? Does anyone know if the comment has any basis? Of course, big
> pharma has been consistently helped by big government but that was true
> before Obama and as far as I can tell both Dems and Repubs have been
> guilty of this sin. Is there something in Obamacare that I've missed
> suggesting that the situation is likely to get worse? Joe
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>  It's interesting that Bouma chooses to list his biases for his 'ideas'
> on preventing massacres.  Vouchers = parents are allowed to send their kids
> to schools with better security (and as an added bonus Bouma essentially
> lists that the vouchers target teacher's unions).  And now, he pretty much
> writes that preventing kids from being medicated will prevent shootings
> (and as an added bonus, Obamacare is stopped and that thus corporate
> welfare to big pharma would be curtailed).  This is pretty much the worst
> spin I've ever seen put on anything.  If he continues in this vein, I'm
> guessing that his next move will be '[insert any conservative cause] will
> prevent school shootings because [insert any random bullshit] and as an
> added bonus [insert underlying Biblical or financial justification]'.
>
>  From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:41:58 -0800
> To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another Answer to School Shootings . . .
>
> It should also be noted that those shooters, identified in the article
> linked by Bouma's comment, wore under garments (so it has been reported
> by a source best left un identified).  Could the donning of undergarments
> have been a contributing factor in the commission of these heinous murders?
>
> If so, Moscow, you can feel safe with me.  I haven't worn underwear since
> 1968.
>
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
>  Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  The article that Bouma refers to and his use of it provide nice examples
> of fallacious reasoning. In the article, there is a list of school shooters
> and then the claim that all of them (not all school shooters but everyone
> on the list) happened to be prescribed some kind of medication, though in
> some instances the medication is listed merely as "Med for Depression."
> Then the claim that the medications are responsible and so we should reject
> Obama-care!
>
> One fallacy is the confusion of correlation and causation. All the
> shooters drank water as well but that doesn't mean that drinking water was
> the cause of the shootings. One needs to establish at least "4 cells" of
> information in order to make a case for a causal relation: How many took
> the meds and became shooters? How many didn't take the meds and became
> shooters? How many took the meds and didn't become shooters? How many
> didn't take the meds and didn't become shooters? Correlation fallacies
> focus on just one bit of this information, In this case, we don't really
> even get the first cell of info since we don't know that the shooters took
> the meds, just that they were prescribed medication (not sure how we
> could know this latter point either, by the way) -- and a variety of medsto boot, some unknown or listed just as "Med for Depression."
>
> Today's logic lesson was brought to you by Starbucks coffee!
>
>  On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>  Does this message from Bouma auger a merging of Freeze Church ans Christ
> Church?
>
> w.
>
>
>  On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
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> https://chumly.com/n/19166c9
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> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.moscowcares.com/
>
>  Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
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