[Vision2020] Zimmy beams as he tours gun factory
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 25 09:08:02 PDT 2013
I'm not supporting Zimmerman. I'm just dismayed by the attitudes people
have towards him based on nothing but wishful thinking, as far as I can
see. These attitudes are shared across the country, and is making life
for this man dangerous. All because he thought he was going to die and
defended himself. His bad luck that he did so at a time when guns are
the new boogieman, and that his attacker didn't have the common sense to
be a white male.
It's really how quickly and absolutely this narrative I keep talking
about solidified that scares the ever-living crap out of me. It means
the main stream media is still king, and that your average American
still just soaks it right up apparently uncritically.
Oh, and I don't plan to shut up, thank you anyway.
Paul
On 08/25/2013 08:39 AM, Joe Campbell wrote:
> Of course I don't condone the bounty, or death threats. It is still a
> mystery to me why you keep condoning Zimmerman. If you want folks to
> stop talking about him, why don't you start us off? Really, I only
> post on that guy when you or others try to defend him, or act shocked
> about the public outrage. Otherwise, I don't really think about him much.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com
> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>
> You're right. He should look properly chastened at all times so
> as not to offend people like yourself. I bet he was laughing at a
> joke! The bastard.
>
> I will admit that if he was thinking in terms of PR, then staging
> a photoshoot at a gun store was not the brightest move. I
> suspect, though, that he can't move three feet in public without
> some self-righteous a-hole tracking his every move and taking his
> picture. It won't last long, though. They'll get him in civil
> court soon where the threshold for evidence is not so high.
>
> While we're on the subject, does anyone out there in viz-land
> condone the bounty put on him by the New Black Panther Party?
> Does anyone condemn it? How about the multiple death threats he
> and his family have been getting? I normally wouldn't ask this,
> but the reactions here to this case have so disappointed me that I
> just have to.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 08/24/2013 10:16 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
>> I think it's STUPID of Zimmerman to be cheesing it up for photos
>> while touring a gun factory. I was seeing shades that idiot
>> president of CA fish and game who bagged a mountain lion in Idaho
>> and went on the cover of some magazine beaming while holding the
>> dead carcass.
>>
>> FWIW - I disagree that Zimmerman was hunting Martin, but
>> nonetheless he did fatally shoot him and this type of behavior is
>> quite the opposite of being remorseful. But hey, if he wants to
>> stay around Florida and make himself visible while there's a
>> bounty on his head, that's certainly his choice and likely
>> another bad choice in a growing list.
>>
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>> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com <mailto:philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Zimmy beams as he tours gun factory
>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:30:05 -0700
>> To: godshatter at yahoo.com <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>
>>
>> I said it was closer to hunting than self defense. It was. And
>> Martin was a kid; Zimmerman was not. And Martin is dead. Maybe
>> that is why no one is blaming him.
>>
>> Did Martin make a mistake? Apparently -- but really we don't know
>> that any more than we know why Zimmerman did what he did. But
>> Martin paid a hefty price for his mistake. Zimmerman did not.
>> That's why folks are upset.
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's the narrative I'm talking about. It completely ignores
>> Trayvon Martin's own actions that helped lead to his death
>> and it exaggerates George Zimmerman's actions. Following
>> someone down a sidewalk is not the same as "hunting" a
>> person. We have exactly zero evidence that Zimmerman
>> followed Martin in order to kill him.
>>
>> But have fun with the narrative. If you happen across
>> Zimmerman, get in a few licks for the rest of us.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 08/24/2013 05:44 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Goes against the narrative? The guy stalked a kid,
>> against the advice of a 911 operator, and ended up
>> killing him.
>>
>> Honestly, I just don't get it. Stalking and shooting is a
>> lot closer to hunting than self-defense. Why is that so
>> difficult for you to see?
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Paul Rumelhart
>> <godshatter at yahoo.com <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well, he and his family do get death threats
>> regularly:
>> http://globalgrind.com/2013/08/03/robert-zimmerman-reveals-family-400-death-threats-per-minute-starbucks-employee-george-trayvon-martin-details/
>>
>> And there is a $10,000 bounty put on Zimmerman for
>> his capture by the New Black Panther Party:
>> http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/07/19/Black-Panthers-2012-video-for-Zimmerman-bounty-resurfaces/3711374236844/
>>
>> So maybe he is in need of a good home-defense weapon.
>>
>> Of course, progressives are not allowed to feel bad
>> about that because it goes against the narrative.
>> Pity, one could almost feel bad for a guy who is
>> reviled on the national stage for protecting himself
>> from getting his ass beat, whether or not it was his
>> own stupidity that got him there.
>>
>> Oh, well. It's much easier to think of him as a
>> monster.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 08/24/2013 03:29 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
>>
>> http://www.mediaite.com/online/george-zimmerman-went-gun-shopping-today/
>>
>>
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