[Vision2020] How many more rounds are we going to let this go on for?

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Fri Apr 12 16:42:52 PDT 2013


I haven't ALWAYS been anti-handgun, though . . .



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Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

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On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> I may be anti-handgun, but I'm not going to campaign against them, Mr. Rumelhart.  
> 
> THAT would be contrary to the people's second amendment rights. 
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
> 
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>   
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
> 
> - John Lennon
>  
> 
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> I was responding to the youtube video in the original post that featured an "assault weapon" firing rounds and dropping shells that were named with spree shooting events.  That's why I gave my little diatribe about why "assault weapons" were being singled out when handguns were statistically a far greater problem.
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>> Paul
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>> From: Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
>> To: 'Paul Rumelhart' <godshatter at yahoo.com>; 'Tom Hansen' <thansen at moscow.com> 
>> Cc: 'Moscow Vision 2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:43 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] How many more rounds are we going to let this go on for?
>> 
>> Uh, Paul – perhaps I’m missing your point, but I really don’t understand your post below.
>>  
>> Did you miss the fact that the rally at Friendship Square was a public statement against gun violence?  Which, BTW, is why it was so stupid of those maroons to show up to protest.  Surely they don’t support gun violence, do they?  Or, maybe they do . . . maybe their intellect has been so poisoned by the NRA & 2A propaganda that they don’t realize that demonstrating against those who are against gun violence is ridiculous.
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>> Also, do you think strengthening background checks only applies to long guns?  That’s certainly not the message I got from reading the proposals, but if you understand something different, please do share.
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>> And, do you not think limiting the sizes of clips applies to handguns?
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>> What about closing the gun show loophole and putting in some specific and stronger penalties for straw purchasers – do you think neither of those apply to handguns?
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>> Finally, you wrote:
>> “I guess nobody gets fired up about the 17 (on average) people of all ages that are killed by handguns every day in the U.S”
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>> That’s utter rot, but I suspect you know that.  Do you think those of us against gun violence just started our battle after the SHES shooting?  If so, I can only suggest that you stop keeping your head where the sun don’t shine and get out of your echo chamber because clearly neither are good for you!
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>>  
>> Saundra
>> Moscow, ID
>>  
>> No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted.
>> ~ Aesop (The Lion and the Mouse)
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>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:48 PM
>> To: Tom Hansen
>> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] How many more rounds are we going to let this go on for?
>>  
>> 
>> If people are so worried about guns, then why aren't we talking about handguns?  Handgun-related homicides are much more frequent than "long gun" related ones, by an order of magnitude (6501 vs. 774 in 2009), according to gunpolicy.org (http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states).  Not every rifle-related homicide is a spree shooting, either.
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>> Not that I want the gun control advocates to go there, mind you, but that would at least make sense.  Otherwise, I have to conclude that it's the sensationalism of a spree shooting that has everybody incensed.  I guess nobody gets fired up about the 17 (on average) people of all ages that are killed by handguns every day in the U.S., probably because it doesn't dominate the media for months at a time every time it happens, like we see with spree shootings.  
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>> Paul
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